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Chrome Prince 12th January 2008 07:17 PM

But on this occassion it was correct, if they fail to uphold or make a ruling on other cases, that's a case to answer for the stewards at the track.

The rules of racing state that a horse must be 2 lengths clear of the horse behind and Takeover was not and hampered the second horse which was beaten by such a small margin and was past Takeover just past the post.

Forget the battlers and their money, how dark would the owners of HIW be?

It's their horse. their training fees, their vet fees etc etc.

xanadu 12th January 2008 07:33 PM

Cannot agree CP,

In this case the stewards have erred badly and subsequently(IMO) have undermined the confidence the betting public had in the decisions of the officials.
As I have stated previously, I have reviewed the videos and have have come to the conclusion that the stewards have created their own "cross to bear."
Don't forget, Takeover Target actually won the race and it was up to the runner-up to present their case......in my opinion not successfully!
Watch the video and you will come to agree that a major injustice has been perpetrated.

Cheers.

Chrome Prince 12th January 2008 07:36 PM

We must disagree then, I have viewed the head on and it's clearcut imho.

xanadu 12th January 2008 08:00 PM

Well we certainly do disagree,

CP, I respect your opinion but on this occasion I respectfully suggest you, like the stewards have got it wrong.
This rubbish about a "designated run" is not valid......,
As per any number of similar races, why couldn't the rider quickly change to the inside and if his mount is good enough, it may challenge and eventually win?

Cheers.

Top Rank 12th January 2008 08:29 PM

For what it is worth, I am with Chrome, correct decision. It seems you have a fairly large axe to grind with the stewards Xanadu apart from this decision. I can guarantee you stewards decisions is not the major reason that gallops turnover may be falling.
But I am sure we will agree to disagree if you allow it.

xanadu 12th January 2008 08:43 PM

G'day Top Rank,

I must disagree with your assetions that steward's decisions are not a major factor in the ever-decreasing turnover phenomenon,.
I refer your attention to some recent errent (IMO) decisions by the stewards which detrimentally affect we punters.
Don't forget, these officials get paid irrespective of dubious results or whatever...what about the punter.....?
I look forward to your response.

Cheers.

Chrome Prince 12th January 2008 08:54 PM

No worries Xanadu, opinion makes for debate, so it's all good.

There are several factors which make the decision right the way I saw it.

The rider could not have gone to the insede because the leader was tiring and could have carted him right back through the field.
Pasakatera runs second last.

Not only does TT take his running, he checks him 200m out.

Look at what the rider has to do on HIW 200m out. HIW's head goes right up in the air.


pharfromoz 12th January 2008 08:59 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome Prince
But on this occassion it was correct, if they fail to uphold or make a ruling on other cases, that's a case to answer for the stewards at the track.

The rules of racing state that a horse must be 2 lengths clear of the horse behind and Takeover was not and hampered the second horse which was beaten by such a small margin and was past Takeover just past the post.

Forget the battlers and their money, how dark would the owners of HIW be?

It's their horse. their training fees, their vet fees etc etc.
you cant tell off the video i posted but if you find and look at the side shot video that they were replaying during the decision you can see that HW was not even close to TOT's heels. this rule about being two lengths in front before crossin lanes- where did you here that from?if thats a rule then its being broken every day without judges calling foul. i saw mitch beadman veer in and take out angland and bowman one day while they were moving up the middle and the judges could of cared less. bowman didnt say a word that day.

plain and simple bowman freaked made a bad move and cost himself the race. he felt embarrased and whined to the judges to clear his own wrong doing and for some crazy reason the judges fell for it.

Chrome Prince 12th January 2008 09:02 PM

Yes, it happens everyday, but they aren't beaten a nose, which is why there's no protest.
But plenty of jocks get holidays for it.

xanadu 12th January 2008 09:12 PM

Point taken CP,
we agree to disagree....,
N.B. couldn't you have included an attachment of Pamela Anderson or some other well-endowed nubile personality?
Well called pharfromoz,
these incidents occur literally in 2 out of 5 of every race run,,,,,so, how come the stewards decide to "enforce" their "interpretation" in this particular race?
I am not happy with the responses I've heard from officials so far......,

Cheers.


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