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Crackone 12th December 2009 11:22 AM

I too have something close to this with a few extra filters.

michaelg I think you will find that city out performs non city.

partypooper 12th December 2009 01:36 PM

Chrome, yes it's more than 5 years but there have been a few tweaks along the way. As you know the problem is the more filters the less no of bets so its a case of accepting some losers to get the turnover. (as you also know I an VERY interested in turnover, hee hee)

Chrome Prince 12th December 2009 09:34 PM

Eagle Farm 2 no.4 - Gundy Son unplaced
Eagle Farm R8 no.16 - princess Qualo 2nd
Rosehill R6 no.9 - Pinwheel WON ($1.40)
Morphetville R1 no.1 - I'm Discreet WON ($1.20)
Morphetville R3 no.1 - Atlantic Air WON ($1.80)

-.60 units Unitab

Probably a profit at TF (can't check IAS is down)

EDIT using another site:

SP $1.50 TF $1.65
SP $1.20 TF $1.20
SP $1.80 TF $2.10

So it's -.60 units Unitab
-.50 units SP
-0.05 units TF

partypooper 13th December 2009 12:05 AM

Mmmmm, MAYBE

Crackone 13th December 2009 08:49 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelg
If anyone has a Unitab D.B. would you be able to check out this system?

1) 100 pointer.
2) Minimum of 8 runners.
3) Won last start.
4) At previous start finished 2nd, 3rd or 4th.

Over the past 7 days there were 16 selections for 11 winners totalling a return of $35.40, and 14 placegetters totalling $25.70.
OK I have some figures for you, from Feb. 2008 Metro only

381 horses (some would be under 8 runners)
115 winners 30.18% SR Return Unitab $375.35
218 placed 57.21% SR Return $354.90


428 that won the last two starts
143 winners return $259.80
268 placed return $393.04

michaelg 13th December 2009 09:14 AM

Thanks, Crackone.

It's interesting to see that your results are quite similar to Chrome's 878 races in that there is a slight loss with each-way betting on Unitab.

With NTD races I'm assuming they're not profitable, this is solely based on other methods I've looked at. If this is correct, then your LOT might be not as "bad" even though Chrome's results did omit NTD races.

And it is also interesting to see that those that won their last two starts have suffered a loss close to 50% on Win betting but surprisingly not with Place betting. Win betting has a strike rate of 33% but the divvies must have been extremely skinny - I might now start to lay them.

Yesterday's non-city selection was the only loss since testing a week ago.

Chrome Prince 13th December 2009 10:02 AM

I would say that the horses that won their last two starts would be overbet.
I wonder about horses that won their last three starts?
Got me thinking.

Crackone 13th December 2009 10:26 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelg
Thanks, Crackone.

And it is also interesting to see that those that won their last two starts have suffered a loss close to 50% on Win betting but surprisingly not with Place betting. Win betting has a strike rate of 33% but the divvies must have been extremely skinny - I might now start to lay them.

Yesterday's non-city selection was the only loss since testing a week ago.
My mistake the figure should have been 359 not 259

Crackone 13th December 2009 10:30 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome Prince
I would say that the horses that won their last two starts would be overbet.
I wonder about horses that won their last three starts?
Got me thinking.
Unitab 100
Won last three
162 horses
50 winners $120.60 return
103 placed $153.20 return

michaelg 13th December 2009 11:03 AM

Crackone, by my calculations the amended results for the 100 pointers that won their last two starts is a LOT of 16%, and those that won their last 3 starts is a LOT of 25%. I once read someone was winning by laying all horses that won their last 3 starts but when I started to do so I found it was not profitable - I must have hit a bad period.

There are 2 selections (non metro) today:

Sun Coast R5 no.2 - Lurid
Hobart R7 no.4 - Moulin Rouge.


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