lay him at your peril!!
just remember who trains it, would not be running if bart wasnt confident of it getting 2 miles.

I still believe will be in the Cup and will be a bg chance. I like Shoot out too and Zipping together with Shocking.

Latest betting
 

Horse Win Place
Shocking 4.20 1.80
So You Think 5.00 2.00
Americain 10.00 3.20
Manighar 14.00 4.20
Descarado 15.00 4.40
Precedence 16.00 4.70
Profound Beauty 18.00 5.00
Shoot Out 18.00 5.00
Zipping 18.00 5.00
Monaco Consul 21.00 6.00
Harris Tweed 26.00 7.00
Bauer 31.00 8.50
Dariana 34.00 9.00
Alcopop 35.00 9.50
Faint Perfume 35.00 9.50
Mr Medici 35.00 9.50
Illustrious Blue 41.00 11.00
Linton 41.00 11.00
Metal Bender 41.00 11.00
Tokai Trick 41.00 11.00
Campanologist 51.00 13.00
Holberg 51.00 13.00
Once Were Wild 51.00 11.00
C`est la Guerre 61.00 16.00
Herculian Prince 61.00 16.00
Jessicabeel 61.00 16.00
Maluckyday 61.00 16.00
Zavite 61.00 16.00
Moudre 81.00 21.00
Drunken Sailor 101.00 26.00
Eastern Aria 101.00 26.00
Mourayan 101.00 26.00
Above Average 151.00 41.00
Cedarberg 151.00 41.00
Exceptionally 151.00 41.00
Master O`Reilly 151.00 41.00
Buccellati 201.00 51.00
Capecover 201.00 51.00
Count Encosta 201.00 51.00
Red Ruler 201.00 51.00
Mr Charlie 301.00 71.00
No Wine No Song 301.00 71.00
Valdemoro 301.00 71.00
Gothic Crown 501.00 126.00
My Bentley 501.00 126.00
Sea Galleon 501.00 126.00
Stanstill 501.00 126.00

Final
 

No. Horse Trainer Jockey Weight
1 Shocking Mark Kavanagh Michael Rodd 57
2 Campanologist (USA) Saeed Bin Suroor Kerrin McEvoy 56
3 So You Think (NZ) Bart Cummings Steven Arnold 56
4 Zipping Robert Hickmott Nick Hall 55.5
5 Illustrious Blue (GB) William J Knight Glen Boss 55
6 Mr Medici (Ire) Peter Ho Darren Beadman 55
7 Shoot Out John Wallace Corey Brown 55
8 Americain (USA) Alain de Royer Dupre Gerard Mosse 54.5
9 Tokai Trick (Jpn) Kenji Nonaka Shinji Fujita 54.5
10 Buccellati (GB) Tony Noonan Steven King 54
11 Descarado (NZ) Gai Waterhouse Nash Rawiller 54
12 Harris Tweed (NZ) Murray & Bjorn Baker Brad Rawiller 54
13 Manighar (Fr) Luca Cumani Damien Oliver 54
14 Master O'reilly (NZ) Danny O'Brien Vlad Duric 54
15 Monaco Consul (NZ) Michael Moroney TBA 54
16 Profound Beauty (Ire) Dermot K Weld Pat Smullen 54
17 Zavite (NZ) Anthony Cummings Michael Walker 54
18 Bauer (Ire) Luca Cumani Chris Munce 53.5
19 Holberg (UAE) Saeed Bin Suroor Frankie Detorri 53.5
20 Precedence (NZ) Bart Cummings Blake Shinn 53.5
21 Red Ruler (NZ) John Sargent Mark Du Plessis 53.5
22 Linton Robert Hickmott Brett Prebble 52
23 Once Were Wild Gai Waterhouse Jim Cassidy 51.5
24 Maluckyday (NZ) Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes TBA 51

Final with barriers
 

No. Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight
1 Shocking Mark Kavanagh Michael Rodd 24 57
2 Campanologist (USA) Saeed Bin Suroor Kerrin McEvoy 19 56
3 So You Think (NZ) Bart Cummings Steven Arnold 3 56
4 Zipping Robert Hickmott Nick Hall 16 55.5
5 Illustrious Blue (GB) William J Knight Glen Boss 9 55
6 Mr Medici (Ire) Peter Ho Darren Beadman 5 55
7 Shoot Out John Wallace Corey Brown 17 55
8 Americain (USA) Alain de Royer Dupre Gerard Mosse 12 54.5
9 Tokai Trick (Jpn) Kenji Nonaka Shinji Fujita 4 54.5
10 Buccellati (GB) Tony Noonan Steven King 21 54
11 Descarado (NZ) Gai Waterhouse Nash Rawiller 1 54
12 Harris Tweed (NZ) Murray & Bjorn Baker Brad Rawiller 13 54
13 Manighar (Fr) Luca Cumani Damien Oliver 20 54
14 Master O'reilly (NZ) Danny O'Brien Vlad Duric 18 54
15 Monaco Consul (NZ) Michael Moroney TBA 14 54
16 Profound Beauty (Ire) Dermot K Weld Pat Smullen 22 54
17 Zavite (NZ) Anthony Cummings Michael Walker 7 54
18 Bauer (Ire) Luca Cumani Chris Munce 2 53.5
19 Holberg (UAE) Saeed Bin Suroor Frankie Detorri 10 53.5
20 Precedence (NZ) Bart Cummings Blake Shinn 15 53.5
21 Red Ruler (NZ) John Sargent Mark Du Plessis 8 53.5
22 Linton Robert Hickmott Brett Prebble 23 52
23 Once Were Wild Gai Waterhouse Jim Cassidy 11 51.5
24 Maluckyday (NZ) Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes TBA 6 51

They still have to find a way to beat So You Think tuesday we'll see what happens I doubt he will be any value at all and doubt I'll back it but I certainly won't be cheering against it if he wins he is a freak and so far he looks it.

I dont think he (SYT) can win from barrier 3 with 24 horses well I should say hard for him to win as an off pacer. He will be trap in the 23 horses. With Shocking at 24, another thouch one to win. Dont be suurprise if Shoot Out comes out as a winner. I am going for Harris or Manighar.

Matilda

as i have said previously I am on Shoot Out already happy to be there Monaco Consul is one i will definitely back on the day and Maluckyday is intriguing after today. Still if So You Think stays anywhere near the trip they can't beat him he is a weighted certainty if you consider right now if the weights were done after today he would have atleast around the 60kg mark.

I'll be cheering for what i back but unlike in the past if this bloke wins I certainly won't begrudge him that how many horses get the chance to win 2 Cox Plates, Mackinnon, Underwood and Caulfield Stakes and not to mention 5 million in prize money in 11 starts and then have the chance of winning a Melbourne Cup at start 12 with 56kgs on his back he is thrown in at the weights and if you like anything else you want him there cause he will bring value to everything else.

Holberg is the one, go you good thing, still cant believe he got into the field!

Current betting
 

Horse Win Place
So You Think 3.60 1.65
Shocking 7.50 2.60
Maluckyday 8.00 2.70
Americain 12.00 3.70
Descarado 13.00 4.00
Precedence 18.00 5.00
Linton 18.00 5.00
Manighar 19.00 5.50
Harris Tweed 21.00 6.00
Monaco Consul 21.00 6.00
Holberg 21.00 6.00
Zipping 26.00 7.00
Shoot Out 26.00 7.00
Profound Beauty 26.00 7.00
Once Were Wild 26.00 7.00
Illustrious Blue 51.00 13.00
Mr Medici 51.00 13.00
Bauer 61.00 16.00
Campanologist 71.00 18.00
Tokai Trick 81.00 21.00
Zavite 126.00 31.00
Master O`Reilly 201.00 51.00
Buccellati 251.00 61.00
Red Ruler 301.00 71.00