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stugots 2nd March 2011 08:54 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bhagwan

LS Margin greater than 3 lngs



hi Bhagwan, going to run this thru my db - could you clarify this filter - seems to be saying 'beaten by more than 3 lengths last start' - Im assuming it would be 'less than 3 lengths'?

garyf 2nd March 2011 09:02 AM

hi dale.
Misinterpreted the question thought you wanted the 2-3-4-5 etc p/money rankings down the line in order of s/rate and profitability at 1.00am this morning when posting i was half asleep sorry about that.

Will let the bhagwan answer this one if he wants to.?

cheers
garyf.

garyf 2nd March 2011 09:27 AM

A couple of (form filters) i use may improve the s/rate and pot when using the
1st ranked pl% as a starting point.
1=(x1)

2=(1-2)(1-3)

3=(2-1) (3-1)

cheers
garyf.

thorns 2nd March 2011 04:47 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by garyf

1ST RATED PLACE STRIKE RATE RANKING (21.7% s/rate)
And a (3% roi level stakes) i know of no other (1 stat only) betting
every race in australia every day that makes a (LEVEL STAKES PROFIT)

If you do me and a lot of pro punters would love you to tell us
you have found shangri-la.


cheers
garyf.
So the system is back the horse with the top place SR?
Or is there another rule to go with this?

If its just the one rule, it showed a pretty bad loss at TAB prices of around 20%.

garyf 2nd March 2011 05:26 PM

The year i surveyed a fair while ago it on a database it actually made a profit.
Hence i made it a rule with some filters for a mechanical system with form filters.
Now that i use ratings i haven't revisited it but like everything else may be losing in current times.

With the tote takeout and rounding down of dividends to about 18% and maybe people becoming aware of that years profitability imaybe now overbet.

Would be interested to know the period you surveyed what the s'rate was
and if it remained around the 20-21% mark?.

garyf 2nd March 2011 06:56 PM

A book called cosistency published by malcolm knowles several years ago actually made me aware of the profit the first ranked place % made.

I have the book sitting in front of me now it's a 16 page booklet outlying this fact with several pages on how to improve the level stakes profit.

For the life of me i can't find anywhere in the book to say the year it was published.

The front cover has a picture of about 6-7 horse and underneath the
words punting for profit through learning.

If anyone out there has a similiar copy who knows the year it was published
could you please post the details here the same year he published a book called prize money which i also have which may jolt someones memory.

garyf 2nd March 2011 07:35 PM

What may actually be more pertinent is if someone out their with a data base covering every race in aus over the last 12 months could look up the s/rate.

Obviously me and hundreds of others who purchased the book used it in some capacity thus lowering the average dividend to make it unprofitable.

I still use the stat today as a filter unfortunately me going back checking it out would be an incorrect stat as i only would have it listed in certain states race types etc not all races as required.

Would really be interested to know if the s/rate of around 21% still holds up.

cheers.
garyf.

Researcher 2nd March 2011 08:34 PM

Researcher
 
Consistency book published in 1998.

garyf 2nd March 2011 08:37 PM

Thanks

thorns 3rd March 2011 04:31 AM

Hi Gary, will check the figures when I get home again tonight if someone else doesnt post any up. From memory, yes the SR held up around that mark, but the loss was as mentioned around 20%, that was probably over a years data starting from the middle of last year when I cancelled the test, as I couldnt see it recovering from that loss to be anything worthwhile.


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