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Chrome Prince 24th May 2012 10:35 AM

The latter.

bernie 24th May 2012 10:45 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Barny
100% IMPORTANT for mine ..... Filters in systems must fit hand in glove with each other, each filter must have a nexus with each other filter.

and of course when you introduce a new filter be aware that it really is a difficult task to identify the value of this new filter
Can anyone other than Barny please explain this to me in simple terms?

Chrome Prince 24th May 2012 10:50 AM

It's the case of identifying indepenant filters overlapping each other or being truly independant.

Lord Greystoke 24th May 2012 10:52 AM

Thanks for clarification.

Incidentally, did you manage to see the next race after the one you mentioned.. same combo of gay-berries = PP Fav, but no divvie to cherish

Was trying to pick up a replay online yesterday to check out the 2 runs but no luck.

LG

bernie 24th May 2012 10:52 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome Prince
It's the case of identifying indepenant filters overlapping each other or being truly independant.
Please give me an example

Chrome Prince 24th May 2012 10:59 AM

An example being the price the horse went around at.
Do we filter that price by jockey, or is that inbuilt to the price.
Is the price taking into account Heavy track and heavy form of the horse or is that inbuilt into the price by the public already.
I would suggest that in the pointy end of the market, those factors certainly are.

If we filter by has the horse ever won within 7 days before or is it his first crack at it, I don't think this is inbuilt into the price. Punters in general just don't go back that far in form. The greatest influence in price is the last start performance coupled with money or lack thereof for the horse on track.
Anything outside these parameters, is usually a handicapper's dream.
Because that's where errors in pricing occur along with overlays.

bernie 24th May 2012 11:02 AM

Oh.

So that is what Barny is doing. Okay. Ta

moeee 24th May 2012 11:31 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Barny
I HAVEN'T posted anything special, they're comments that's all.

You said you found a Filter that turns things around 60 %.
But you won't say what it is.
Thats not a comment , that can be plainly taken with a grain of salt.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Barny
Go TOU that moeee, that's your strength !

You must have me confused with someone else.
I'm in fact a virgin in that department.

Barny 24th May 2012 11:39 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by moeee
You said you found a Filter that turns things around 60 %.
But you won't say what it is.

please try and concentrate moeee.

YES, I found a filter that turned things around by 60% in one of my systems BUT moeee, it will only work WHERE THERE'S A NEXUS between the other filters in the system moeee. I also said that too moeee. That's VITAL as far as I'm concerned moeee.

go look for sarge1's posts. He nominated one filter that improves most systems ..... and he's right !!

Keep digging moeee ......

Barny 24th May 2012 11:44 AM

and to LG, there were many posts on drifters and the amazing stat recurring that had +95% of those opening longer than pre-post ..... LOST.

moeee, this is me just regurgitating posts from the past and trying to assist those who haven't explored all this site has to offer.


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