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umrum 15th August 2003 09:59 AM

yeah what the hell are trans races.

Merriguy 15th August 2003 10:16 AM

Thanks for your answer to my question about what is a "Welter", Shaun. Might take me a little while to get my mind around it though!

I asked the question about 'transitional' about six months ago. Answer?
http://www.propun.com.au/forums/vie...ic=3092&forum=2

umrum 15th August 2003 10:20 AM

cheers for the link. what is the point of having trans hcp's when they can just have an open race

topsy99 15th August 2003 11:32 AM

i think transition races are for horses that havent won since the cows came home.

crash 16th August 2003 06:14 AM

Found the answer at the supermarket on the back of a packet of soap: "This soap is made from 100% Transitional Horses only".

Would I lie to you?

thekey 16th August 2003 09:23 AM

The Transitional handicaps replace classes 5,6 and welter races in NSW. They are open to all horses. However the quality of them can vary quite markedly. IMO they contain horses that are either improving on the way to better grades or for horses over the hill in transit to oblivion. The variation probably comes from the number of horses in each race drawn from these two categories. ie if it is full of old plodders in winter it is weaker than young improvers in spring/autumn.

TESTAROSSA 16th August 2003 09:50 AM

A Transitional race is a combination of Class 5, Class 6, and Open Hcps put together, i give it a weight rating of 57, compared to 60 for Open Hcps and 55 for Class 6 city races.

Shaun 16th August 2003 10:15 AM

Wow...tomaney races to digest...lets see how these go





MR2 11.00 WILLIAM CROCKETT STAKES 3F-LR $80,500
1 Regrowth.. (11), 4 Carlton Spirit.. (9), 2 Rosarino.. (6)
5 Arena Star.. (4), 7 More Perignon.. (4), 3 Dilly Dally.. (1)
6 Keluca.. (1)

MR4 12.20 MITCHELL MC KENZIE STAKES 3Y0-LR $80,500
2 Great Is Great.. (9), 1 Winestock.. (8), 4 Royal Fire.. (4)
5 Cross Current.. (4), 6 Cahuita.. (4), 7 Lago Delight.. (1)

MR5 1.00 CAMRY CROWS TROPHY WELTER $40,000
7 Wyndam All.. (13), 5 Bunreba.. (10), 1 Zvezda.. (6)
10 Sea Rover.. (3), 2 Mr. Prudent.. (2), 3 It's Rysek.. (1)
9 Datari.. (1)

SR6 1.20 BANKSTOWN SPORTS-PREMIERE STAKES WFA-G2 $141,200
1 Excellerator.. (15), 3 Shags.. (6), 6 Our Egyptian Rain.. (6)
7 Pompeii.. (6), 2 Thorn Park.. (3)

MR6 1.40 ROSEMOUNT EST. - MCEWEN TROPHY WFA-LR $151,000
2 Super Elegant.. (13), 1 Yell.. (10), 4 Dantana.. (10)
5 River Dove.. (2), 7 Ruby Slipper.. (1)

AR6 1.50 ADELAIDE SAAB FLY HCP OPEN $24,000
3 Exalted Lad.. (13), 2 Cosmic Strike.. (6), 8 Cubiton.. (5)
9 Dashiki.. (4), 1 Eagle Rhythm.. (3), 7 Vicksburg.. (3)
6 Sciatica.. (2)

MR7 2.20 HYLAND SPORTS RIDERS CHALLENGE OPEN $40,000
3 Dandy Kid.. (12), 4 Legend Of Ace.. (11), 5 Storm Attack.. (6)
1 Roktzar.. (4), 2 Chairman's Choice.. (2), 8 Lord Erin.. (1)

SR8 2.40 DOOLEYS HCP OPEN $50,000
4 Catechism.. (13), 1 Red Trinket.. (10), 3 Our Mojo.. (5)
10 Networks.. (3), 11 Quadri.. (3), 2 Bondi Iceberg.. (1)
5 Mrs. Tendulkar.. (1)

PR6 3.50 GOODWOOD SPRINT WFA-LR $42,700
1 Blevvo.. (12), 2 Fair Alert.. (12), 7 Tribula.. (8)
6 Suspicion.. (3), 3 Kaprats.. (1)

PR7 4.25 PALACE GUEST HCP OPEN $28,000
3 Mr. Tambourineman.. (12), 1 Cardinal Colours.. (6), 7 Kiwi Hombre.. (6)
2 Desert Dreamer.. (5), 4 Shoeless.. (4), 5 Swiss Echo.. (2)
9 Adventurer.. (1)


I am backing the first 3 unless there is a scatching in that case i will take the next inline

CRASH AND BURN TODAY....OH WELL THERE IS ALWAYS NEXT RECE DAY



[ This Message was edited by: Shaun on 2003-08-16 11:16 ]

[ This Message was edited by: Shaun on 2003-08-16 18:13 ]

crash 16th August 2003 08:42 PM

I've said it before, the Wizard couldn't pick their nose.

If you had backed their LAST 2 selections instead of their first three, you would have done better. Lost less that is.

The most expensive Racing paper with the least ability to rate horses. Computerized Mumbo Jumbo not worth a crumpet.

Bring back the Globe!

[ This Message was edited by: crash on 2003-08-16 21:44 ]

Shaun 17th August 2003 10:56 AM

Well yesterday was not a good day....they are far from the worst paper.......the money i lost yesterday was only what i added to the bank after wednesdays winners i also pocketed twice that amout as profit.....and i know we can't say well if only this had happend.but did you see the price of "Crlton Spirit" they also gave me "Oscar Worrior" a few weeks ago...at $64 and then again the nextweek at $13.30 who else tiped that horse twice....i ride the good with the bad and belive me the good can be very good....overall i lost 8% of my bank yesterday after backing 30 selections who else can tell me how they did....you also have to remember winter raceing is not the best races around....can't wait for spring.


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