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kenchar 4th December 2003 06:02 AM

Crash,

I can see where you are coming from, but that's a price we all pay for using the net.

My own thought's are that at least these guys are up front.

1 is free and the other says if his selections continue to show a good profit into next year he will start charging.

Maybe I am missing something but I really can't see anything wrong here.

Anyhow we all have our own opinions, that's why the forum works.

Cheers

crash 4th December 2003 11:36 AM


Actualy Kenchar their sites are good and what they offer is more than most commercial sites. Their tips and records are transparent and average 5% POT which if sustainable should lead to good things.
Perhaps they were worried about management reaction and slipped in 'non-commercial' so as not to attract attention ['free' would have attracted attention]. I had a point about the commercial link [ that leads to indirectly to heaps of sites ] that I certainly didn't mean to go far, but well you know me I can stand on a point until the house burns down and often say things just to stir the muggy site weather. No offence ment to the players but the spring is finished and it's probably nit-picking time again I guess so I will just go and bang my head against the wall a few times for punishment and then have a good lie down !!

Cheers.


[ This Message was edited by: crash on 2003-12-04 12:44 ]

kenchar 4th December 2003 05:58 PM

Crash,

Good on yah, BUT now lets see if they keep posting here on general things we chat about.
THAT will be the proof of the pudding!!!!

Cheers

calcurate 5th December 2003 12:02 AM

CRASH No offence taken.

For what it's worth : Takes a bit of
charactor to say you might have been wrong.

Look forward to the next round of responses
when I update in this forum, other ideas for
staking methods.

Cheers

crash 5th December 2003 07:05 AM

Calcurate,

I did go back and have a good look at Imthegun's and your site and realized on my part... 'o-oh, definate over-reaction old son'.
There was an incident last week with a serious commercial player getting onto the forum indirectly flogging wares [the whole thread has been wiped] that probably left me a bit 'touchy'. Your post[s] came on the heals of it so to speak, which was unfortunate. Sorry about that.

Cheers.

boxhead 5th December 2003 08:53 AM

Hello Calcurate,
You don't do the ratings for unitab by any chance? Only looking at yesterday and today, but every tip is rated 100 by unitab.
cheers

calcurate 5th December 2003 09:21 AM

Hi Boxhead

Your very observant, but no I don't do them or use them as a base. I do use them as a comparison when I have completed my own. If their the same it's a selection.

Just one of many such filtering methods to get an outcome.

For interest if you do a complete research on the overall results of their top rated you will find yourself in need of many "shirts" if you get my drift.

Nothing wrong with their ratings. Just no value in relation to overall strike rate.

That's most likely due to the many that follow them.


Cheers

[ This Message was edited by: calcurate on 2003-12-05 10:27 ]

[ This Message was edited by: calcurate on 2003-12-07 11:54 ]

calcurate 7th December 2003 10:41 PM

If anyones interested I have added a workout for my staking method on my home page to give a better understanding of it's workings.

Just view my home page and then Staking.

http://www.geocities.com/calcurate/

Bit hard to properly post it here.

Cheers

imthegun 7th December 2003 11:10 PM

crash

I just wanna clear up something with the counter. I put that counter online last week to see how many visit's I get.
Yahoo who is my webhoster counters don't seem to work. The site stats were not showing up.
I sign up to a counter site and sicnce then the ture stats have been coming through.
The counter has been up for only 4 days with the 2nd day not uploaded right.
I got over 200 hits on the weekend and with the results that friday and Sat'day (6 winners from 10 tips (no tips today)) that will grow.
We are not desperate for exposure, we are just trying to get a base of people who will keep coming back.
We all know the web is full of free sites, racing tips and ratings, porn, music & other things. It might be ture that they are selling things and claim to be free sites.

Like I say on my site (Which I have no pop up adds from what I know of) I want to go to a pay site in 8 months. And like I've said here before The reason is hosting costs, my time and if they are winning people money why shouldn't I get some money for myself?
I can see where you're coming from, You don't like people telling you one thing, but doing the other, I understand. Like last night we had a party on a boat that was meant to finish at 2am, it finished at 12 and we all wanted our money for the 2 hours lost.

crash 8th December 2003 06:58 AM


Imthegun,

Well I was a bit suprised by your counter as you have been doing well with your selections. Very well indeed.
Do you handicap your selections or use a system ? I suspect the former as I've never seen a system that stays up for long. Good luck.

Cheers.


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