HAVE NEVER DONE WELL with regard to picking form - I say again, bad luck cannot be factored into assessing dog form unless you have a comprehensive video database or you only back dogs that led all the way in the best time of the night.

Backing statistical favourites is ENTIRELY something different.

Chalk and cheese the two postings.

Let me give an example:
Let's take the tote price 0 mins before the jump, the tote favourite.
(This is not what I suggested but will be a sufficient example).

TODAY
bendigo greyhounds
R1 Auntie Dorrie $3.10
STOP PROFIT

cessnock greyhounds
R1 Thundering Blue -
R2 Roaring Silence $2.40
STOP PROFIT

angle park greyhounds
R1 Explosive Image $2.60
STOP PROFIT

dapto greyhounds
R1 Rustic Gem $2.90
STOP PROFIT

hobart greyhounds
R1 Gunna Tell $2.50
STOP PROFIT

albion park greyhounds
R1 Twin Cam Annie -
R2 Today's Payday -
R3 Let's Go Joe -
R4 Cosmo Topper -
R5 High Tensile -
R6 Scope -
R7 Jack A Dandy -
R8 In The Frame -
R9 Little Looker -
R10 Barnacle Bob $2.50

sandown greyhounds
R1 Wings Of Fame $1.90
STOP PROFIT

YESTERDAY
the meadows
R1 Mouyong Maggie -
R2 Saint Galore $1.90
STOP PROFIT

maitland
R1 Mykonos Mel $3.20
STOP PROFIT

gold coast
R1 Size 'Em Up -
R2 Golden Golly -
R3 Size Matters -
R4 Incoming Dreams -
R5 Hilltop Cutie $2.80
STOP PROFIT

warrnambool
R1 Danbuck -
R2 Havoc Creation $3.20
STOP PROFIT

ballarat
R1 Ticking Title -
R2 Jazzy's Girl -
R3 Smokin' Rebel -
R4 Lynette Bale $2.60
STOP PROFIT

bulli
R1 Windgrove -
R2 Elite Force -
R3 Fancy Chic $2.50
STOP PROFIT

ipswich
R1 Super Faithful $3.50
STOP PROFIT

I think this more than answers the query.
You cannot get set with your wagers, if you experience more than about 4 losses - that's the only snag.

[ This Message was edited by: Chrome Prince on 2004-01-22 22:55 ]

NOW I GET IT ,

We have the one that accuses everyone else of posting under other names doing it himself or herself, or maybe 1/2 and 1/2. :lol:

Chenille,

C'mon baby where are you, come back to me.

This is just like the sunday night strolls you talk about. :smile:

Oh kenchar, you break me up, your just sooooo funny, keep them coming, no wonder you have such a big fan club, your my hero :smile:

I'll take that as a (conditional) "yes" Chrome Prince :wink: Good onya!

Simple system, but has anyone got any stats on a fav not winning at a meeting - perhaps a big ask, as there are many dog meetings everywhere, every day. Maybe there are particular venues to focus on.

I shudder to think how big a dent a "favless" meeting would make on the kitty, or what impact (depending on pool size & your base betting unit) you might make to the "expected" return, when you are down to the last few races, still waiting on that fav to salute the judge.

Anyway, food for thought - thanks Chrome Prince :smile:

EL Chenille,

AAAW GEE, I'm flattered, and now you've gone and embarrased me :oops:

Thanks for the compliment though, makes a nice change :smile:

Chrome, if your last two days figures are in any way typical, the way to go sems to be just back the fav. in the first race and stop. My maths says that would have given a 51.5% POT --- which would do me any day :grin:

Your welcome EL kenchar :smile:

Merriguy,

Actually the figures were extreme which is amazing, the average is to strike a winner in the first 4 races, more often than not, if a fave doesn't win in the first four races, it's usually races 8,9, or 10 before a win.

The long run of outs until the last race in brisbane is not typical - perhaps once every 10 meetings.

I have seen meetings where no favourite wins, but that is extremely rare - perhaps once every 3 months (betting every night all venues).
One can reduce the losing races by sticking with certain favourite races.

Example: No Maidens and boxes 1,2,7,& 8 or where the favourite has an empty box next to it.

Thanks for the added info., Chrome. Believe there is something there worthy of our attention. Even the fact that the doggies have only, at max, eight runners --- though I have an idea that in some parts of the world 10 runners may start. Glad its not here!