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Felicity 10th February 2004 03:47 PM

Quote:
On 2004-02-07 18:07, Our Maizcay wrote:

1. Group or Listed Races
2. Won last start
3. Placed the start before .. ie..1,2,3
4. Racing within 15 days of last start
5. Distance change .. -150 to +150
6. Barrier position 10 or more

profit of over 300% for the win and 100% for the place. A larger sample would be more appropriate.


Looking at a larger sample (1991 - 2003) satisfying your criteria ........

WIN SR........ 17.11%
AVDIV..........$5.37
POT............-8.16%

PLACE SR.......36.51%
AVDIV..........$2.60
POT............-5.16%

Sorry to rain on your parade :sad:


Our Maizcay 10th February 2004 09:11 PM

Thanks Felicity,

q/ Sorry to rain on your parade q

The larger sample gets ya everytime.

Maybe I should sell the idea now while my figures look good, and let all purchasers suffer down the track :smile:

Seriously ... I appreciate the feedback and for you taking the time to publish the results.

OM.

26th February 2004 12:15 PM

Felicicty, with that many years of data, are you able to shed any light on what works and what dosnt, what have been the main key factors in a successful selection method, one in which you may be using just so we can see what you look for in a successful profitable method.

crash 27th February 2004 09:36 AM


Adam,

The % of favorites winning is around the 30% mark and hasn't change since the year dot.

Computing power helps reduce the work load, but has not improved the fav. SR. one iota. Otherwise, every one with a puter would be rich and the fav. SR would have improved.
Ditto regarding systems [ yes, they can work for awhile but the fav., SR is still 30% so something is not working !!! ].

If time is an enemy, software has a definite place and will improve your handicapping efforts. What it won't do is make you rich. Beyond 30%, the variables get you and your puter.

Convincing you otherwise is the secret of selling 'race winning' software and tipping services that claim 'worked out by a computer' !!!

Software such a Cyberform and what is sold here are no more than great handicapping tools that do a lot of the legwork for you and even offer up suggested selections and other handy features [ If you have XL and know how to use it, Cyberform and Price predictor pro. are a great combo ].

After 30% though you are on your own and it is up to you to make the right 'guesses' based on your experience and good/bad abilities.

An individual punter can improve on 30% because there are others getting nowhere near that, but the wash comes out at 30% overall.

The air shared among consistent profit takers [ pro. punters ] is rarefied indeed.
Software and puters has made no difference to their number [ as a % of punters ] and I'm not one of them either.

Cheers.


[ This Message was edited by: crash on 2004-02-27 11:15 ]

Mark 27th February 2004 09:37 PM

Well put Crash.

crash 28th February 2004 06:20 AM



Thanks Mark,

The greatest gift and tool any punter has is his/her power to 'reason'.

Why is it the first thing thrown out the window when the illogical is presented as possible $$$ in the bank ?

Cheers.


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