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sportznut 5th August 2004 09:54 AM

St George have a poor record against the Storm, so I wouldn't say they are any certainties. Melbourne haven't played well away from home this year however.

goldmember 5th August 2004 06:24 PM

Saints are unpredictable, but should lift against the better sides at home nearing the semis, the roosters were flat against the eels and souths [in wet] but lifted for the saints and storm, their not one of my sides but i'm going to bck them tomorrow if their still around $1.60-$1.55, but i wont take under that. If i followed my price ratings last week i would have had 7/7 but left manly out, this week i think there are 5 favs under the odds, 1 even and 1 over the odds[knights the best value H2H]so i will betting exotics mostly.

[ This Message was edited by: goldmember on 2004-08-05 19:29 ]

goldmember 6th August 2004 10:55 AM

PLAYERS OUT OF TEAMS LISTED

STORM -S.HILL

BRONCOS -S.MINTO
-S.WEBKE

SHARKS -B.KIMMORELY [very unlikely]


Mr J 6th August 2004 01:12 PM

Well I went against the world and bet on Melbourne +6.5. IMO most other people have made bets based on injury and no other data.

rabbitz 6th August 2004 03:42 PM

Good Bet Mr J. St.George are as reliable as throwing a stick to a blind dog,he might hear it and run its general direction or he might ignore it altogether,having said that,both teams when their on, play quite well ,its not a game for the faint hearted so i havent gone near it
cheers

Mr J 6th August 2004 04:46 PM

Well there were reasons why I might've just stayed away:

1. Business end of season, Dragons should perform for this one.

2. Injury, my model doesn't factor in injuries so how much of a difference has it made?

3. Heavy action, coming in on the Dragons. Was it sharp (pro bettor) money or just public?

4. Melbourne have only won 2/8 away from home.

Reasons for betting:

1. Business end of season, Melbourne will play up.

2. Injury. When this info comes out, people often over value the importance. Melbourne are a good club so should have enough depth to allow the injury not to have a huge impact.

3. Heavy action. Other lines don't move nearly so heavily, unless there is an injury. In fact the only one I can clearly remember is Easts vs Knights when knights had countless players out. The advantage off one single injury can not warrant such a large bet as % of BR. My conclusion is that it's not sharp money.

4. Dragons have won just 4/8 at home, and just 1/4 vs a more important factor I'd prefer not to state.

Melbourne also fits a very important trend.

I agree that on their day both teams are capable of walking over pretty much any other team.

I weighed up the pros and cons and Melbourne came out on top.

My system picked melbourne, I just wanted to to more work on this one and make sure I was comfortable with it.

lembanker wannabe 6th August 2004 05:48 PM

Hi there Mr.J
U seem to have a system that goes against public opinion most times and that no doubt impresses me. How long have u been sports betting mate? What is your thoughts on the three sunday games? I have all favourites winning...Bulldogs, Roosters and West Sydney and no doubt that kind of scares me some.

Mr J 6th August 2004 06:17 PM

I'm actually more confident going against public opinion than agreeing with it. Bookies will always shade public opinion, so naturally value is more likely to be on the other side :wink:

Haven't done saturday/sunday games yet.

Been sportsbetting around a year now, but only started handicapping (making my own picks) a few months ago in Super 12s.

goldmember 7th August 2004 06:42 AM

MR J, normally i would have stayed out of fridays game,[cant trust stgeorge]but this year melb have been dreadful on the road, only playing a couple of good halfs and their defence has been fragile for a while and while i agree most of the time 1 injury wouldnt move that much money, it depends if its a key player or not, there has been a few games this year when theres been a few out injured and teams backed heavily, penrith v melb,penrith v bulldogs plus others ,the smarties would have backed the dragons early before he was officially ruled out and the start [+3.5]is only 1 try any,thats nothing, i know after that every body jumps on the bandwagon and what started out value wouldnt end up being value,i missed the early price so instead of taking unders i went a saints try, first scoring play @ $2.15, even better value.

cheers

Chuck 7th August 2004 08:46 AM

Knights by 7
Broncos by 6
Panthers by 12
Tigers by 2
Bulldogs by 20
Roosters by 24

Chuck


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