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syllabus23 19th October 2004 02:42 PM

Radio TAB’s Stephen Hewlett and Tony Clements were on the job early today and Stephen Hewlett spoke to Michael Sullivan. For the many people who would have missed the interview it makes interesting listening, so let’s go through some of the points with you.

Michael Sullivan said that Sportingbet’s “concerns go back well over 12 months into the integrity of Brisbane racing.” Sullivan stated he had grave doubts as to the “integrity in the price fluctuations” and quoted Saturday’s Eagle Farm winner “Never Sad as just another classic case – it blew from $6 to $12 then once the fluctuation went through it was backed into $6.50.” Sullivan continued by saying “it had won like Bernborough the Saturday before and our books are open but maybe they (authorities like betting stewards) ought to look at how much the Brisbane bookies took on the horse at $12.” Sullivan stated that prices on horses like Never Sad “were inflated and were not a true reflection of what price the horse should be.”


Which stewards ?????

kenchar 19th October 2004 04:40 PM

Moeee,
I'm just curious, do you wear your collar backwards. :smile:

Mark 19th October 2004 04:42 PM

Poor old Michael, maybe he should go back to bookie school, or try to make a living on Betfair with markets around 100%, instead of bragging about $5,000,000 bets.

xptdriver 19th October 2004 05:17 PM

Gday All,

I find this topic pretty intersting. Over the weekend just gone I had the pleasure of being on course at the Gold and Sunshine Coasts. Can't reccommend the SSCST highly enough, what a great place to enjoy the races.

Now to the stuff about THAT bookie in Darwin, and his probs with Brisbane Racing It appears there is no form done by that mob but rather they follow. And heaven forbid you are consistent winner with this mob..

The race he questioned I thought wasn't that big a surprise. I had Never Sad at about 8 bucks 4th pick behind Moving, Perance and Sea Artist. I saw the Price of 12 bucks in the ring at GCST and took the 50% over. If I knew it was an over why didnt the expert in Darwin. ...If he had done his homework he would never have bet the horse at 12 dollars. ....I don't know if he was betting on the GCST races last Saturday, but if he was i would love to see what he made of the books in the ring having that last fav at 2.20 in about a 200% market and it paid $4+ on the tote. I am not sure that it even started fav on the tote. My point here is that the Bookies at the Coast HAD done their home work with LUX and were not taking chances. So you had to bet him on the tote where you got better than 4 bucks. They were bleeding fairly profusely from a Fav day at the Coast on Saturday and they sure as hell werent going to get stung again..
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[ This Message was edited by: Moderator 3 on 2004-10-19 20:18 ]

moeee 19th October 2004 05:54 PM

Mr Kenchar.
I am trying to establish a professional attitude towards my gambling pursuits.
If you wish to see the down side in everything regards gambling,that's your prerorogative.
Just remember.You can never soar like an eagle if you hang around with a bunch of galahs.

kenchar 19th October 2004 06:40 PM

Moeee,
The sooner you realise this whole business is about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
and NOTHING else, then you might be on the way of finding a way to come out in front.

moeee 19th October 2004 09:48 PM

Nothing in life is about nothing else.
Suppose you could always use the bills to line your coffin.
I aim to enjoy my gambling and feel comfortable,not angry and jealous and spiteful.

purpleheart68 20th October 2004 09:13 AM

An old adage that I think must be placed on this thread
"The secret of life is so simple that man cannot grasp it."
Apply it to the punt.

syllabus23 20th October 2004 09:43 AM

Read Says Doping & Fixing Rampant
Prominent bookmaker & punter Mark Read triggered headlines declaring “Doping & Race Fixing Rampant” after telling The Daily Telegraph that “race fixing & doping are widespread” & “Australian racing has an integrity problem that has existed for years, but nothing has been done about it” because “officials are adopting a head-in-the-sand attitude to the problem”. Read declared: “The policy of the racing industry & the TABs that drive the industry is that we don’t want any bad publicity because it affects turnover. In the last few years, there’s been a massive use & abuse of performance enhancing drugs. There’s not enough resources going into keeping Australian racing drug-free. The industry knows there is a problem, but once again it’s been pushed under the table because it’s all about public opinion. There are horses racing on EPO, people cheating the system taking them on & off the gear.” Read summed up: “This is the biggest story in the racing industry & no-one is game to have a crack at it.” (Oct 19)

Ahhh the old head in the sand routine....

A senior customs official once told me that it was impossible to control the importation of drugs into Australia.He said money means nothing to these people.They can buy "anyone".

"Buy Anyone"That is the end game of mega dollars.Delaying the transmission of the last minute of price fluctuations is worth millions to some people.It's happening daily,we can all see it.If there is a good reason for it let's start hearing it...

By the way, I will not be drawn into schoolyard name calling.

moeee 20th October 2004 09:47 AM

Don't know what that adage is trying to convey,but please don't enlighten me.
Reading it is like looking at a beautiful seaside view.Means different things to different people,but always beautiful.
I think Mr J has got a handle on professional punting,but I don't know if he is getting the adrenalin rush and numerous other non-financial things that gambling can provide.


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