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Chuck 10th December 2004 08:12 PM

one of the three turned out to be "Horse Racing Theory and Practise - Revised and Updated"- by PAUL SEGAR - this is a great one as you mentioned

Still can't find or remember the other two!!!!


Chuck

Chuck 10th December 2004 08:20 PM

I found them - tucked away in the bookshelf
"Horse Racing Logic" - Glendon Jones
"25 ways to beat the horses" - Walter Gibson
"Secrets of professional turf betting" - Robert Bacon
"Commonsense Handicapping" Dirk someone..

chuck

darkydog2002 10th December 2004 08:22 PM

ok.And thanks.

darkydog2002 11th December 2004 08:21 AM

I will see if I can get hold of them through Malcolm or the HORSEMANS bookshop.
Cheers.
Darcy.

trench digger 11th December 2004 08:30 AM

Have you guys read Blakemores most recent work "Weights Right" ?

I think its by far his best.

Chuck no offence intended if I'm wrong but I suspect you incorporate some of Blakemores theorys when deciding your selections for the tipping comp.

TD

Chuck 11th December 2004 08:44 AM

well not really...i do use his ideas for reference but i guess it sometimes turns out that way!!...after all, its only a tipping comp ;-)

darkydog2002 11th December 2004 09:34 AM

Hi Trenchdigger.No .I havent seen that one.
Is it still available?
Cheers.
darky.

thoroughbred 11th December 2004 09:57 AM

Before you all get carried away with this method let me point out that it's a "Golden Pin" system.

Below is a quote from some research that you might find interesting.

QUOTE

Once upon a time I sent away several of my hard earned $$$$
to a fine fellow who, in return, sent me a magnificently
bound set of tables, rules, suggestions which were guaranteed
to put me on the winning way in my quest for El Dorado.

When you carved away all the verbiage the ‘rules’ boiled
down to a set of ‘motherhood’ statements that we all
learned at Ian Barns’ knee. You know the sort of thing Good
Jockey, Good Horse, Good Draw, Good Weight, Good Price, Good
Bet.

In addition there was a set of "Fitness Pattern" tables based
on (as I discovered later) a mathematically flawed concept, and
some selection instructions.

Now the various rules and instructions weren’t too difficult
to program, as was one other rule which I haven’t mentioned
yet ... the horse had to be in the first four lines of betting.

So, away we went with an overnight run through nine previous
years worth of Australian races. Totally impartial, completely
in accordance with the ‘rules’.

Strike Rate 18.57%. Small loss.

Then it dawned on me .. the following night we did an identical
run through identical data but ignored the rules completely.
Except for one. The horse must be in the first four lines of
betting. I made the machine pick one of the top four favourites
at random.

Strike Rate 18.75%. Small loss.

Ran the same thing several more times using just Metro, Metro
Sats, Metro Class, Provincial, Country, and on and on with
(as I expected) the same result.

It didn’t matter a damn what the ‘rules’ and tables said.
The whole system depended totally on the selection being in
the top four favourites.

I wrote to the originator and advised him of my findings.
He agreed replying "I agree, without this factor [first four
favourites] the XXXXXX goes nowhere."

UNQUOTE

Caveat emptor.

trench digger 11th December 2004 11:09 AM

Hi Thoroughbred,

Blakemores stuff is more a method and set of ideas in respect of Form Analysis rather than a mechanical system.

While not a path to the holy grail they are a set of original ideas that have helped me to become a more consistent punter.

Your quote seems to be very similar to thoughts I have read by one of Blakemores great rivals who himself could be accused to be a seller of Golden Pin Systems.

Not from Tassie are you??

trench digger 11th December 2004 11:11 AM

Darky,

should be still available only published in the last few months.

It brings together the last 2 books nicely.


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