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monkeyinjapan 19th May 2005 11:14 PM

Thanks Kenchar -- now I've got it. I assumed Miamiles had the rest of the field for second place, rather than the whole field. Yep, he should get two divies....

Monkeyinjapan

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good 4th 20th May 2005 07:19 AM

The way i see it is he had 1,4,10 to win with the feild to come second.
So he gets paid only once.

Random 20th May 2005 07:35 AM

quinella query
 
Correct good 4th
to receive (2) dividends would entail quinellas thus;
1/2345678910 =$9
4/1235678910 =$9
10/123456789 =$9 Total$27
quinella would pay on 1st and 2nd bet only
1410/12345678910 =$21
because win selections would cancel out
in place selection

Shaun 20th May 2005 07:59 AM

He should get two pays because it doesn't matter what order they finish to win a quinella and the fact he had first and second as his bankers means he gets paid on both....if the bets were put on seperatly he would get paid twice

1/2345678910
4/1235678910

i think there may have been a mistake in the way the bets were placed such as an exacta....what were the divis on the race and what did you get paid
and exacta and a quinella in theis case would cost the same

miamiles 20th May 2005 10:01 AM

The official answer
 
The trap for young player lies in the clarity of the word “field”. In my case I assumed that “the field” meant ALL other runners outside my selection. My thought process was that if I ticked my 3 standouts on the 1st leg line of the quinella indicated that I thought that any of these 3 would run first/second. (I am sure that many others would also have the same understanding) and if I ticked “F”(for field) on the second line it would indicate that I would get paid should any of the 3 standouts finished 1 or 2. Alas not – the NSW TAB computer thinks that the 3 standouts should be excluded from the field as they have already been selected elsewhere. The long and the short of it is that should I wish to achieve what I wanted with one bet (as I’ve indicated above) I couldn’t do it. I have to have 3 bets as in Selection 1 with the field, Selection 2 with Field and Selection3 with the field.
As for the cost – In my example the cost $18 -for 1$. (1 with 2,3,5,6,7,8 (which is NOT the field is it?) - 4 with the same & 10 with the same) If it was taken in the way I wanted the cost would have been $24
Anyway that’s the answer from NSW TAB thanks to all listers who had their 2 bobs worth. It certainly cleared something for me and perhaps others as well.

kenchar 20th May 2005 10:18 AM

I couldn't see how that could be correct as the field is EVERY runner, so just logged on and submitted a bet to check the cost and you are totally correct and agree it is a trap for the unwary.

purpleheart68 23rd May 2005 10:23 AM

Dont mean to be critical,to each his own,but why would you take 3 standout selections in a 9 horse field?Depending on actual prices,if you had narrowed the field down to 3 main chances Imo,especially in a small field,you would have much better off pricing you 3 banker combos and betting to win a certain amount.What I mean is only bet your 3 quins,so if it was your intent to spend $24 on the race even without betting to prices,you still could have had $8 on each combo.Quinellas are an art,and there are lots of overlays to be had by betting to prices,mainly in the under 10/1 range.Most punters in TABS will take your path with a banker/s hopin for a 100/1 shot to run second.Does happen sometimes,but you will go broke following that path.


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