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pharfromoz 25th May 2007 11:37 AM

MILDURA

8TH- #2 SCINTILLATING CYN
........#5 WOODLAND JACK
.........#7 OUR SALTY BOY
.........#15 OSCAR GOES TO

pharfromoz 25th May 2007 04:06 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by pharfromoz
MILDURA

8TH- #2 SCINTILLATING CYN
........#5 WOODLAND JACK
.........#7 OUR SALTY BOY
.........#15 OSCAR GOES TO
MILDURA

8TH- #2 SCINTILLATING CYN- 3rd- $5.50(nsw)/$12.90(us)
........#5 WOODLAND JACK- 2nd- $2.90(nsw)/$5.50 $6.40(us)- just missed!
.........#7 OUR SALTY BOY- out
.........#15 OSCAR GOES TO- out

those horses rounded out a pretty sweet trifecta!

slow- hit 3of3 races
dead- hit 1of4 races

pharfromoz 26th May 2007 10:46 AM

GOLD COAST

2ND- #1 ADILHTAM

3RD- #2 LANGFUHRS CHOICE
........#11 AUTHORESS
........#12 COOL SCENE


DOOMBEN

6TH- #10 READY WHEN YOU ARE
........#12 RESOLUTION

Sportz 26th May 2007 02:15 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by pharfromoz
DOOMBEN

6TH- #10 READY WHEN YOU ARE
........#12 RESOLUTION


Well done with this one. You picked it out last start and it's got up for 3rd at good odds.

About a month ago, I actually backed Ready When You Are at big odds to run a place in the Queensland Derby in a couple of weeks time. I'm sure it's come in a fair bit in the betting after today's run. Now I just have to hope it can do the right thing.

watsonnek 26th May 2007 02:18 PM

Great place get pharfromoz!
 
3rd 10 READY WHEN YOU ARE J SHEEHAN $13.10

pharfromoz 26th May 2007 02:23 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by pharfromoz
GOLD COAST

2ND- #1 ADILHTAM

3RD- #2 LANGFUHRS CHOICE
........#11 AUTHORESS
........#12 COOL SCENE


DOOMBEN

6TH- #10 READY WHEN YOU ARE
........#12 RESOLUTION

GOLD COAST

2ND- #1 ADILHTAM- out

3RD- #2 LANGFUHRS CHOICE-out
........#11 AUTHORESS- out
........#12 COOL SCENE- out


DOOMBEN

6TH- #10 READY WHEN YOU ARE- 3rd- $14.80(nsw)/$17.00(us)
........#12 RESOLUTION- out


good- hit 1of3 races
slow- hit 3of3 races
dead- hit 1of4 races

pharfromoz 26th May 2007 02:29 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sportz
Well done with this one. You picked it out last start and it's got up for 3rd at good odds.

About a month ago, I actually backed Ready When You Are at big odds to run a place in the Queensland Derby in a couple of weeks time. I'm sure it's come in a fair bit in the betting after today's run. Now I just have to hope it can do the right thing.
yeah i think he can bring it again. hood off today was a plus. veered in a couple times down the stretch and just hung on.

i dont know how good that jock was but i would like someone else. i think if timed better he could of been running with the top two to the finish.

but ill take it. looks like you guys nailed a better payout than i did.

if the #7 wasnt there that trifecta was mine.

thanks for the heads up sportz i appreciate that. thanks watsonek- hope ya had a couple on him.

watsonnek 26th May 2007 02:42 PM

I did pharfromoz ;) cheers :)

pharfromoz 27th May 2007 10:00 AM

WERRIBEE

6TH- #1 DAWNSTORM
.......#4 FORT KNOX
.......#6 ISLE OF ERISKA
.......#9 PAPA

8TH- #1 OUR LOTTO

9TH- #3 SANIREKA

pharfromoz 27th May 2007 03:38 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by pharfromoz
WERRIBEE

6TH- #1 DAWNSTORM
.......#4 FORT KNOX
.......#6 ISLE OF ERISKA
.......#9 PAPA

8TH- #1 OUR LOTTO

9TH- #3 SANIREKA
6TH- #1 DAWNSTORM- out
.......#4 FORT KNOX- 4th
.......#6 ISLE OF ERISKA- out
.......#9 PAPA- 1st- $4.10 $1.90(nsw)/$11.90 $4.20 $3.30(us)

8TH- #1 OUR LOTTO- 3rd- $4.10(nsw)/$8.30(us)

9TH- #3 SANIREKA- out


good- hit 1of3 races- 33%
slow- hit 3of3 races- 100%
dead- hit 3of7 races- 42%

pharfromoz 28th May 2007 10:15 AM

WODONGA

3RD- #7 DANCING DELIGHT

4TH- #2 MR ZEN
........#7 JULIOS BOY
........#8 TOOZDE
........#14 SEA LIONS

8TH- #3 SPACEAGE JULIET
........#5 SURFWATCH
........#8 WISTIK
........#13 NEARTIC CROSSING


TAMWORTH

1ST- #5 HARD CASTLE
........#7 BENDY

pharfromoz 28th May 2007 02:29 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by pharfromoz
WODONGA

3RD- #7 DANCING DELIGHT

4TH- #2 MR ZEN
........#7 JULIOS BOY
........#8 TOOZDE
........#14 SEA LIONS

8TH- #3 SPACEAGE JULIET
........#5 SURFWATCH
........#8 WISTIK
........#13 NEARTIC CROSSING


TAMWORTH

1ST- #5 HARD CASTLE
........#7 BENDY
WODONGA- DEAD

3RD- #7 DANCING DELIGHT- out

4TH- #2 MR ZEN- out
........#7 JULIOS BOY- 2nd- $2.10(nsw)/$5.80 $5.70(us)
........#8 TOOZDE- out
........#14 SEA LIONS- 3rd- $3.10(nsw)/$8.70(us)

8TH- #3 SPACEAGE JULIET- out
........#5 SURFWATCH- 1st- $5.70 $2.00(nsw)/$14.20 $12.30 $4.80(us)
........#8 WISTIK- out
........#13 NEARTIC CROSSING- 4th


TAMWORTH- GOOD

1ST- #5 HARD CASTLE- 2nd- $4.70(nsw)/$17.30 $5.50(us)
........#7 BENDY-out


good- hit 2of4 races- 50%
slow- hit 3of3 races- 100%
dead- hit 5of10 races- 50%

pharfromoz 29th May 2007 11:52 AM

KYNETON

5TH- #1 AUTHENTIC STAR
........#2 BRABHAM
........#7 KOHL
........#11 KING CUGAT

6TH- #2 TRUE CELEBRE
........#4 CASUAL REQUEST
........#8 ROUGHICCA
........#9 GLENEVE

7TH- #1 DOIN'THEHARDYARDS
........#4 ZEBIRD
........#7 NOBLE STRANGER
........#11 VIONIER

WYONG

6TH- #1 CONVAIR
........#4 ESCUDOS
........#11 ATADBLUE

7TH- #1 THUNDERBIRDSAREGO
........#5 VANIDOSA

#2,#3,#8 are crying out for the stretchout. place in the exotics.

pharfromoz 29th May 2007 05:15 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by pharfromoz
KYNETON

5TH- #1 AUTHENTIC STAR
........#2 BRABHAM
........#7 KOHL
........#11 KING CUGAT

6TH- #2 TRUE CELEBRE
........#4 CASUAL REQUEST
........#8 ROUGHICCA
........#9 GLENEVE

7TH- #1 DOIN'THEHARDYARDS
........#4 ZEBIRD
........#7 NOBLE STRANGER
........#11 VIONIER

WYONG

6TH- #1 CONVAIR
........#4 ESCUDOS
........#11 ATADBLUE

7TH- #1 THUNDERBIRDSAREGO
........#5 VANIDOSA

#2,#3,#8 are crying out for the stretchout. place in the exotics.
KYNETON

5TH- #1 AUTHENTIC STAR- out
........#2 BRABHAM- out
........#7 KOHL- 3rd- $1.60(nsw)/$2.10(us)
........#11 KING CUGAT- out

that was one ugly race.

6TH- #2 TRUE CELEBRE- 1st- $3.70 $2.00(nsw)/$8.40 $4.60 $3.60(us)
........#4 CASUAL REQUEST- scratched
........#8 ROUGHICCA- out
........#9 GLENEVE- 3rd- $3.00(nsw)/$5.40(us)

7TH- #1 DOIN'THEHARDYARDS- cancelled
........#4 ZEBIRD- cancelled
........#7 NOBLE STRANGER- cancelled
........#11 VIONIER- cancelled

WYONG

6TH- #1 CONVAIR- out
........#4 ESCUDOS- out
........#11 ATADBLUE- out

7TH- #1 THUNDERBIRDSAREGO- out
........#5 VANIDOSA- out

#2,#3,#8 are crying out for the stretchout. place in the exotics.

$2 ezacta- 2/3= $45.50(us)
$2 ezacta- 2/3= $35.80(nsw) ....results dont say $2 or $1 payout. im sure its $2 i hope.

pharfromoz 30th May 2007 11:36 AM

SANDOWN-HILLSIDE

5TH- #1 ELWOOD
........#2 TERRAIN
........#4 MONTE CASINO
.........#9 nicholas

7TH- #5 MOTOWN MELODY
........#7 LADIES DANCING
........#11 YARRANABBE

8TH- #4 PORTLAND SPIRIT
........#14 MAGIVOR

CANTERBURY

6 turn backs in the 7th at Canterbury. my ezacta/trifecta format. ++ on the top ends.

7TH- #1 JENKS ++
.......#2 OLD MYSTIQUE ++
.......#4 LIFES TO SHORT ++
.......#7 SIMONS COMET.......longshot!
.......#8 LINGA LONGA
.......#11 MASTER BLASTER.....8 and 11 on bottom of exotics.

pharfromoz 30th May 2007 03:36 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by pharfromoz
SANDOWN-HILLSIDE

5TH- #1 ELWOOD
........#2 TERRAIN
........#4 MONTE CASINO
.........#9 nicholas

7TH- #5 MOTOWN MELODY
........#7 LADIES DANCING
........#11 YARRANABBE

8TH- #4 PORTLAND SPIRIT
........#14 MAGIVOR

CANTERBURY

6 turn backs in the 7th at Canterbury. my ezacta/trifecta format. ++ on the top ends.

7TH- #1 JENKS ++
.......#2 OLD MYSTIQUE ++
.......#4 LIFES TO SHORT ++
.......#7 SIMONS COMET.......longshot!
.......#8 LINGA LONGA
.......#11 MASTER BLASTER.....8 and 11 on bottom of exotics.
SANDOWN-HILLSIDE

5TH- #1 ELWOOD- out
........#2 TERRAIN- 3rd- $3.90(nsw)/$4.70(us)
........#4 MONTE CASINO- out
.........#9 nicholas- out

7TH- #5 MOTOWN MELODY- out
........#7 LADIES DANCING- out
........#11 YARRANABBE- out

8TH- #4 PORTLAND SPIRIT- out
........#14 MAGIVOR- out

CANTERBURY

6 turn backs in the 7th at Canterbury. my ezacta/trifecta format. ++ on the top ends.

7TH- #1 JENKS - out
.......#2 OLD MYSTIQUE - out
.......#4 LIFES TO SHORT - 1st- $3.70 $1.60(nsw)/$6.30 $5.60 $2.50(us)
.......#7 SIMONS COMET- longshot - 2nd- $2.90(nsw)/$14.90 $4.20(us)
.......#8 LINGA LONGA- out
.......#11 MASTER BLASTER- out

$2 ezacta- 4/7= $47.10(us)
$2 ezacta- 4/7= $35.30(nsw)

and of course the pick i really liked gets hammered by the public and pays diddley.

looks like the public got bent over while the bookies are cheerin.

pharfromoz 31st May 2007 09:46 AM

CRANBOURNE

1ST- #2 BOSS HOT ROCKET


HAWKESBURY

2ND- #2 REVOLVES
........#4 HUCKLEBERRY
........#6 KADAZAN

pharfromoz 31st May 2007 03:50 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by pharfromoz
CRANBOURNE

1ST- #2 BOSS HOT ROCKET


HAWKESBURY

2ND- #2 REVOLVES
........#4 HUCKLEBERRY
........#6 KADAZAN

CRANBOURNE

1ST- #2 BOSS HOT ROCKET- 2nd- $1.60(nsw)/$6.40 $4.00(us)


HAWKESBURY

2ND- #2 REVOLVES- 3rd- no div(nsw)/$3.50(us)
........#4 HUCKLEBERRY- out
........#6 KADAZAN- 4th

pharfromoz 1st June 2007 11:39 AM

SUNSHINE COAST

5TH- #2 THUNDER BEACH
........#4 KINGS CRUSADE
........#6 ROYAL SULTAN
........#7 MISTER TIVOLI

6TH- #5 MOMFASA
........#11 ARCHERS PRIDE

pharfromoz 1st June 2007 04:09 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by pharfromoz
SUNSHINE COAST

5TH- #2 THUNDER BEACH
........#4 KINGS CRUSADE
........#6 ROYAL SULTAN
........#7 MISTER TIVOLI

6TH- #5 MOMFASA
........#11 ARCHERS PRIDE

SUNSHINE COAST

5TH- #2 THUNDER BEACH- 1st- $9.50 $4.90 $3.40
........#4 KINGS CRUSADE- 2nd- $7.70 $4.60
........#6 ROYAL SULTAN- out
........#7 MISTER TIVOLI- out

$2 ****- 2/4= $69.50

6TH- #5 MOMFASA- 4th
........#11 ARCHERS PRIDE- out

computer is on the fritz again. was only able to post (us) prices.

pharfromoz 2nd June 2007 10:38 AM

EAGLE FARM

1ST- #7 AQUARACER
........#8 COTTON FINGERS

6TH- #8 ZINGARA

8TH- #5 VANQUISHED
........#6 PENTATHON


MORPHETTVILLE

5TH- #1 EXALTED TIME
........#5 DELEDIO
........#6 DANCERS TALE

7TH- #4 YOU GO FOR HUGO
........#15 ENCOSTA EXPRESS

pharfromoz 2nd June 2007 02:26 PM

AHHH!!!! zingara just missed placin third at 30/1.

rats!

pharfromoz 2nd June 2007 04:07 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by pharfromoz
EAGLE FARM

1ST- #7 AQUARACER
........#8 COTTON FINGERS

6TH- #8 ZINGARA

8TH- #5 VANQUISHED
........#6 PENTATHON


MORPHETTVILLE

5TH- #1 EXALTED TIME
........#5 DELEDIO
........#6 DANCERS TALE

7TH- #4 YOU GO FOR HUGO
........#15 ENCOSTA EXPRESS
EAGLE FARM

1ST- #7 AQUARACER- out
........#8 COTTON FINGERS- out

6TH- #8 ZINGARA- 4th......just missed 3rd at 30/1.

8TH- #5 VANQUISHED- broke down
........#6 PENTATHON- 1st- $15.20 $4.20(nsw)/$21.40 $8.60 $4.70(us)


MORPHETTVILLE

5TH- #1 EXALTED TIME- 1st- $8.50 $2.30 (nsw)/$12.60 $6.20 $4.70(us)
........#5 DELEDIO- 2nd- $1.70(nsw)/$7.20 $4.50
........#6 DANCERS TALE- out

$2 ezacta- 1/5=$56.70 (nsw) ....i think its for $2
$2 ezacta- 1/5=$97.20 (us)

7TH- #4 YOU GO FOR HUGO- 3rd- $2.30(nsw)/$6.30(us)
........#15 ENCOSTA EXPRESS- out

pharfromoz 5th June 2007 11:46 AM

WARRNAMBOOL

6TH- #3 DANNY'S COMMAND
........#6 REAL SOUND

8TH- #1 LIGHTNING LILLY
.......#3 OUR LOTTO......needed last.

10TH- #1 BRUNELLESCHI

Sportz 5th June 2007 12:11 PM

Well done with Pentathon on Saturday.

diogenes 5th June 2007 12:22 PM

I like the 7 horse Royal Spur, I'll give this a go. Good Luck.
Warn R6-7

diogenes 5th June 2007 12:28 PM

I was wondering, is it my inexperienced eye or does B Rawiller flap around awkwardly a bit ?
He seems to get a few winners but last time I watched him I thought he was gonna take off he flapped so much, thought he was gonna beat the mount over the line.

watsonnek 5th June 2007 12:29 PM

Hi diogenes
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by diogenes
I like the 7 horse Royal Spur, I'll give this a go. Good Luck.
Warn R6-7


Does this selection meet an over-extension or under-extension criteria :confused:

diogenes 5th June 2007 12:34 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by watsonnek
Does this selection meet an over-extension or under-extension criteria :confused:
Gee, I didn't even assess it that way Wattsonek, I just made the comment out of a sense of comradery with Pharfromoz.
I see your point, I am off subject and shouldn't post imput that isn't relevant.

watsonnek 5th June 2007 12:43 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by diogenes
Gee, I didn't even assess it that way Wattsonek, I just made the comment out of a sense of comradery with Pharfromoz.
I see your point, I am off subject and shouldn't post imput that isn't relevant.


Wasn't my point diogenes :) I'm still getting my head around pharfromoz's 'different' approaches. I was also going to post later (for pharfromoz) a question if a min. number of runs had to be completed in the current campaign before consideration be given to under or over (extension) possibilities.

pharfromoz 5th June 2007 04:31 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by watsonnek
Wasn't my point diogenes :) I'm still getting my head around pharfromoz's 'different' approaches. I was also going to post later (for pharfromoz) a question if a min. number of runs had to be completed in the current campaign before consideration be given to under or over (extension) possibilities.

i dont play long layoff from last over extention. prefer 21 days and under.

i also like to use horses who i think might have blown an opportunity after a over extention run last out.

prefered runs to be completed- 1 to 3 would be to my liking but sometimes you might miss a good price by leaving something else out. because some horses keep themselves in shape by running all the time compared to some horses that need refreshings.

T.O.E. is an angle to use in a all around effort with other angles of handicapping to nail those big exotic pays and straight wins.

pharfromoz 5th June 2007 04:35 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by pharfromoz
WARRNAMBOOL

6TH- #3 DANNY'S COMMAND
........#6 REAL SOUND

8TH- #1 LIGHTNING LILLY
.......#3 OUR LOTTO

10TH- #1 BRUNELLESCHI
6TH- #3 DANNY'S COMMAND- out
........#6 REAL SOUND- out

8TH- #1 LIGHTNING LILLY- 4th....was praying for this guy to hang on to 3rd at 26-1.
.......#3 OUR LOTTO- out

10TH- #1 BRUNELLESCHI- 1st- $5.80 $2.10(nsw)/$9.60 $4.10 $3.90(us)

watsonnek 5th June 2007 07:30 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by pharfromoz
i dont play long layoff from last over extention. prefer 21 days and under.

i also like to use horses who i think might have blown an opportunity after a over extention run last out.

prefered runs to be completed- 1 to 3 would be to my liking but sometimes you might miss a good price by leaving something else out. because some horses keep themselves in shape by running all the time compared to some horses that need refreshings.

T.O.E. is an angle to use in a all around effort with other angles of handicapping to nail those big exotic pays and straight wins.


Thanks for your further clarification pharfromoz.

pharfromoz 6th June 2007 10:35 AM

BALLARAT

4TH- #2 IDENTITY
.......#3 ILBACH
........#10 HOODLUM


CANTERBURY

2ND- #3 READY TO IMPRESS

7TH- #8 BUNDLEOFJOY++
........#9 AQUABLESSING
........#10 WIEGENLIED
........#12 LORD VERDI

pharfromoz 6th June 2007 01:56 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sportz
Well done with Pentathon on Saturday.
thanks you sportz.

he flew home like a bat out hell.

pharfromoz 6th June 2007 03:56 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by pharfromoz
BALLARAT

4TH- #2 IDENTITY
.......#3 ILBACH
........#10 HOODLUM


CANTERBURY

2ND- #3 READY TO IMPRESS

7TH- #8 BUNDLEOFJOY++
........#9 AQUABLESSING
........#10 WIEGENLIED
........#12 LORD VERDI
BALLARAT

4TH- #2 IDENTITY- OUT
.......#3 ILBACH- OUT
........#10 HOODLUM- $10.00 $3.20(NSW)/$16.40 $5.90 $4.30(US)


CANTERBURY

2ND- #3 READY TO IMPRESS- OUT

7TH- #8 BUNDLEOFJOY- 3RD- $2.00(NSW)/$2.90(US)
........#9 AQUABLESSING- OUT
........#10 WIEGENLIED- 4TH .....at 30-1. rather of seen him hit 3rd.
........#12 LORD VERDI- OUT

take the obvious favorites with #8 and #10 and it did set up a nice trifecta and superfecta.

pharfromoz 7th June 2007 09:26 AM

MOE

2ND- #3 CLASSIC GENERAL
........#7 PENSIONER

4TH- #2 DESTINY CALLS

5TH- #1 ON THE KNOCKER
........#8 PISCEAN


IPSWICH

1ST- #3 TAILS ARE WAGGING
........#11 TANAMI TRACKER
........#13 CEE ME NOW

pharfromoz 7th June 2007 02:24 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by pharfromoz
MOE

2ND- #3 CLASSIC GENERAL
........#7 PENSIONER

4TH- #2 DESTINY CALLS

5TH- #1 ON THE KNOCKER
........#8 PISCEAN


IPSWICH

1ST- #3 TAILS ARE WAGGING
........#11 TANAMI TRACKER
........#13 CEE ME NOW

2ND- #3 CLASSIC GENERAL- out
........#7 PENSIONER- 3rd- $2.30(nsw)/$3.00(us)

4TH- #2 DESTINY CALLS- 2nd- $2.10(nsw)/$6.00 $3.80(us)

5TH- #1 ON THE KNOCKER- 2nd- $2.40(nsw)/$6.60 $5.60(us)
........#8 PISCEAN- out


IPSWICH

1ST- #3 TAILS ARE WAGGING- cancelled
........#11 TANAMI TRACKER- cancelled
........#13 CEE ME NOW- cancelled

squirtz 8th June 2007 05:56 AM

CANBERRA

4TH- #3 LADY BRIONY

5TH- #5 RAPHAEL

8TH- #1 JOHANRUTZ

pharfromoz 8th June 2007 11:16 AM

CANBERRA

5TH- #5 RAPHAEL
........#7 KONEDOBU

........#11 SUMMER ASSAULT......longshot
........#12 GANGLERI.................longshot


GRAFTON

5TH- #11 BANGTAIL


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