hi sportz,

i changed my bets this morning.... i dont know if it was allowed if it was...
my outlay was $100

and my return was
75x4.3
= $322.50

+$222.50 for the day...

Yeah, that was okay. Good move too. You're coming 3rd.

oh gawd, sorry im tired, i thought you had me on +100 for the day.... forgive me.

[even more wonderful for me!]

It would have been easy to say nothing [ except thanks for the mistake:-)) ], but I think you might have gone a bit astray in your scoring Sportz.
You might want to check everything from yesterday, as you may have been a bit tired or something. Both mine and Syllabus23 scores both seem a bit on the high side! I haven't checked any of the others but you might want to if these 2 are wrong:

UniTab prices:
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Crash
Doomben
6/1 Blood 'n' Bone 60w x 6w = 360
7/7 Single Rose 60w [2nd] nil
8/5 Consider Yourself 80w x 4.20w = 336
Total win $696 / Amount spent = ($200)

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Syllabus23
Perth Race2 #1 Universal Prince $100 Win [scr.]
Melbourne Race8 #4 Spielmaster $100 Win x 3.60 = 360w

My Belmont horse scratched so .........
Trifecta Doomben R8 5,6,9/1,2,5,6,9,10/1,2,5,6,9,10 $1 = $60 x 1=213.70w
Total win = $573.70 Amount spent = ($160)
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Yeah me too Sportz where did i win $24..i outlayed $138 and that leaves me with $362

Also:

The rules say max. spent on exotics is $50. Syllabus23's TRI cost $60 for a $1 unit, meaning it should be read as a 50c unit ($30 cost], which would win him $106.80 [rounded down from 106.85], not 213.70. His totals would be: Total win = $466.80 Spent $130.


Sportz,
Maybe you are adding the money we have left to bet with for the month to what we win? If so, my score would be correct but Syllabus would still be out I think.

I thought we just had $500 for the month to bet with. There was nothing in the rules about having our winnings to bet with on top of our monthly bet amount [?]

Crash:
Amount Spent $200
Amount Won $696
Profit: $496

$500 + $496 = $996

where is the problem???

Ahhh yeah, what Chuck said. You start with a bank of $500 and then you try to build on that. In your case Crash, you started with $500, then spent $200 and won $696. ($500 - $200 + $696 = $996) Can't see the problem.

And if you read back over the previous posts, you'll see that I told Syllabus23 about the maximum bet for trifectas and I DID change it to a 50c bet. And Rabbitz, you had a couple of scratchings in your Adelaide trouble, so you were refunded $24.

Guys, I've done this sort of thing a bit now, so I sort of know what I'm doing. ;) But I'm certainly not immune to making mistakes, so if you do have any doubts about the scoring, feel free to raise them.

I see your point Chuck and nothing wrong with it if we want to go by 'assumed' rules, rather that what the rules say.

The rules state we get $500 to bet with a month and that's all they say. The rules didn't mention anything about the scoring method except Unitab would be used. Does this mean that next week I have $996 to bet from, $796 or $300?


That's why my posts, these points need to be clarified and I don't want to be accepting a score I didn't deserve if it was a mistake.

We posted at the same time Sportz.

Thanks for the clarification. So next week do I have $996 to bet from, $796 or $300?

Seems reasonably clear to me.

Ah the ol' scratching angle i see,cheers for that

Okie dokie Sportz. I get the big picture.

Thanks.

Well, you have $996 to bet from, BUT you can still only bet a maximum of $250. If you bet the maximum amount of $250 on each of the next 3 weeks and don't win a cent, you will end up the month on $216.


I think the basic rules are pretty clear, but I'll state them again for everyone.

You get a starting bank of $500 and try to build on that.
You must bet at least $500 during the month but you can bet more.
If your bank drops down to $0 before the month is up, you're out and have to wait for the next month.
You can only bet a maximum of $250 on any betting day.
You can spend a maximum of $100 on Win/Place bets.
You can spend a maximum of $50 on other bets.

And you had a late scratching in the first leg, so you went on to the sub-favourite which was a winner. If you had won the last leg you would have won the treble.

By the way, wesmip1 did something which was sort of against the intended principle of this rule, but I decided to allow it.

sportz, correct me if i'm wrong but i believe i'm owed refund of $18 as two of my runners were scratched from my trifecta.

raw, i see our love of the ol' apache knows no bounds
he did look a good thing didn't he?

He was the best certainty ever yesterday mate was never going to lose that race I can't believe what they bet about Haradasun just ridiculos.

Yeah, you're right Spartacus. Thanks for that.

Bank / Tipster / Amount spent

$996.00 . crash . ($200.00)
$836.85 . Syllabus23 . ($130.00)
$722.50 . Magivor . ($100.00)
$708.30 . Horse Whisperer . ($150.00)
$604.30 . Maverick1993 . ($250.00)
$540.00 . Raw Instinct . ($200.00)
$506.00 . Spartacus . ($150.00)
$501.90 . feather . ($160.00)
$456.00 . Usurper . ($150.00)
$430.00 . Panther . ($250.00)
$427.50 . wesmip1 . ($250.00)
$395.00 . Chuck . ($220.00)
$386.00 . Rabbitz ($138.00)
$355.00 . Longshot . ($145.00)
$350.00 . Goldcoaster . ($200.00)
$350.00 . Sportz . ($150.00)

Feel free to start posting bets for tomorrow's races. And please remember the rules.

You get a starting bank of $500 and try to build on that.
You must bet at least $500 during the month but you can bet more.
If your bank drops down to $0 before the month is up, you're out and have to wait for the next month.
You can only bet a maximum of $250 on any betting day.
You can spend a maximum of $100 on Win/Place bets.
You can spend a maximum of $50 on other bets.



It looks like Unitab are now having First 4s on every single race in Bris, Syd, Melb and Adel on a Saturday as well as the last race in Perth.

MV

R1 N5 Brazen Hussey $25 win.
R2 N1 Kinugawa $25 win

All Up
WIN R1 N5 into R2 N1 $25

R1 Trifecta 2,5/1,2,3,4,5,6/1,2,3,4,5,6
50c
cost $20

Treble
2,3,5/1,9,13/3,5
50c
$9

5/1,5,9,13/3,5
$1
$8

Daily Double
1,5,9,13/2,3,5,6,8
50c
$10


total outlay
$122.

BR5 H17 SNEAKY LONG $20 WIN $30 PLACE TOTAL $50
BR5 TRIF BOX 3,5,7,10,17 $1 TOTAL $60

TOTAL BETS $110

OB $708.30

ALL UP X $30
BR1 4 YASS RIVER WIN
BR3 7 TOUR GUIDE WIN
BR6 3 DARING FORTUNE WIN

BR3 TOUR GUIDE $50 WIN
BR7 LOCAL RULES $25 E/W

TOTAL BETS $130
CB $578.30

ob 386

gold coast r2 no 1 equal red 10x10

eagle farm r7 no 5 kendrick lad 10x10

randwick r8no4 let me adam 10x10

moonee valley r 5 no 1 ista kareem 10x10

adelaide r 2 no 2 silent action 10 x 10

cb 286

Sorry mate. You're not allowed to spend more than $50 on a trifecta. So that'll have to be for 50c.

M/V Race4 #1 Empire Dancer $100 win

R/W Race5 #3 Sliding Cube $100 win

M/V Race3 7,9,10,11/7,9,10,11/1,4,7,9,10,11,12. x50c for $30

Total $230

Good luck all.

BR 7 #2 Jack and Ice $50 win
BR 8 #4 Time and Dandy $50 win
SR 5 #7 Moonboat $50 win

Melbourne Treble
3,5,6/ 1,5,10,11/ 2,3 .50c unit= $12

Sydney Treble
5,8/ 2,3,7,9,10,11/ 5,7 .50c unit= $12

Brisbane Treble
5,9/ 3/ 2,10,11 $2.00 unit = $12

$186 cost all up

Morphettville ALL UP
Race 4 #2 WIN -> Race 5 #3 WIN -> Race 6 #1 PLACE -> Race 7 #7 PLACE [ $20 ]

Eagle Farm race 3 #7 WIN [ $50]
Eagle Farm race 3 #2 PLACE [ $50 ]

Belmont race 6 #8 WIN [ $50 ]

Belmont ALL UP
Race 1 #1 PLACE -> Race 6 #8 PLACE -> Race 7 #8 PLACE [ $30 ]

Total outlay: $200

Cheers.

hey sportz,
a few scratchings so these are my updated bets. :)
MV

R1 N5 Brazen Hussey $25 win.
R2 N1 Kinugawa $25 win

All Up
WIN R1 N5 into R2 N1 $25

R1 Trifecta 2,5/1,2,3,4,5,6/1,2,3,4,5,6
50c
cost $20

Treble
2,3,5/1,3,5,11/3,5
50c
$12

5/1,3,5,11/3,5
$1
$8

Daily Double
1,3,5,11/2,3,5,6,8
50c
$10


total outlay
$125.
:)

OK, I'm ready to be knoked off the top of the ladder. Catch me if you can:-))

Eagle Farm
All up r1/4 x r2/3 x r3/7 $20
Box exacta r7/11 x 14 $5 [2.5 units]
r7/11 Count Henry $30w
r7/14 Industrial Fan $5w x $15p

Moonee Valley
Box Exacta r5/3 x11 $5 [2.5 units]
r5/3 Baughurst $50w
r7/3 Haddle McDaddle $50w
r8/3 Prima Nocte $50w

Randwick (2x6x6] r8 Tri:
4,10 x 4,5,6,7,8,10 x 4,5,6,7,8,10 $20 (50c unit)

Total $250

Have a good one!

Sr7 no1 Blessus $200 win
Ar7 no2 Sassbee $50win

SR4-2 Craiglea Charm
SR-2 Dante's Paradiso
SR8-7 Craiglea Emma
All $25 win & place
Total $150

TRIFECTA
AR4 - 1-2-3-7-8- @ 1/2 $30.00

WIN BETS @ $35 each

SR1-3 OCCURRENCE
SR3-2 HUMMA
SR8-4 LET ME ADAM
GC1-2 LOADED TYCOON
BR3-1 TOUR GUIDE
AR4-2 MADAM LUSH

spend $240.00

If I'm not too late to join in for the month

BR 3 # 7 Tour Guide
BR 7 # 5 October Sky
SR 2 # 2 Ausbred King
SR 3 # 2 Humma
SR 6 # 6 Go Cart

all $50 Win

Wise One

AR 7 Tab 7 Zupaone--$50 win
WR 2 Tab 4 Storm Inthe North--$50 win
WR 4 Tab 4 Install--$50 win
WR 5 Tab 7 My Empire--$50 win

Give me $50 win on #2 Murjana in race 1 in melbourne to if it's not to late

OB $506

MV
R5 ISTA KAREEM $50 WIN
ALL UP R5#1/R6#1 $20
R6 $2 BOX TRI 1,5,7 $12
RAND
R8 $2 BOX TRI 2,3,4,6 - $48
R8 LET ME ADAM $50 WIN

CHELT
R7 $2 BOX TRI 1,5,7,12 - $48

EAGLE FARM
R7 50C BOX TRI 1,3,5,10 - $12


TOTAL: $240

CB $266

SR5-7 Moonboat $10 Win
MR3-12 Airstream $30 Win
BR2-3 Grecolo $50 Win
BR3-7 Tour Guide $50 Win
BR4-1 Sashenka $30 Win
BR6-3 Daring Fortune $50 Win
PR8-1 Go The Surt $30 Win

Amount spent $250

of course i meant MORPH here!

Sorry Mav, but you can't have a $200 Win bet. The maximum win bet you can have is $100. I'll put you down for $100 instead.