have messed round with the wiz punt and found that there in lies a good lay system as well

I have looked at a further rule that I include in most of my form study and that is Average Prizemoney Ranking (APR).

From my previous posting if you delete all contenders, for the Melbourne races since start 2007, that do not have an APR of 1 to 4 i.e. must have one of the top 4 APR's you get the following result:-

42 bets for 16 wins (S/R 38.1%), Win Bank (for $10 bets) = $425.00 (POT% = 101.2%) using best of 3 totes or SP if better.

You eliminate 18 contenders but lose only 1 winner (paid $9.30).

From a place point of view you do lose quite a few good place dividends so I would suggest if you are looking at exotics I would include the APR rule to look for winning chances but would not include it if you are looking for place chances for the Tri's and First 4's.

Food for thought!

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How do you work out APR?

Hi Mr Quaddie,


Either use The Sportsman Chartform Average Prizemoney column. Horse with the highest Average Prizemoney is rated 1, next highest horse is rated 2 etc.

Otherwise Divide Total Prizemoney won by the Number of Starts to get each horse's Average Prizemoney. Then rank them in order from highest to lowest.

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Thank you for your professional and insightful suggestions.

Will certainly backtrack the results to see how your suggestions went since the commencement of the method on the forum.
And will post on the forum .
( full method adding in up to 2kg apptc and av prizemoney in order 1 - 4)

In the meantime will ONLY bet the original method

I do include WFA .

I only look at starts in from a spell.

Cheers.
darky

Hey darky,
Have you found anywhere that offers the details required to use this system online for free? I pretty much just need the leader or on pace stat, as I cant get the sportsman paper over here.

Cheers

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Any clues on the laying part of the wiz punt system please .
Thanks to all who post on this forum , I read regular but dont post often.

Cheers Wombat2

Darky,

Thanks for clearing up the questions I raised especially about whether the total of the last 3 starts MUST not be broken from by a spell. This has certainly improved the overall picture - one I am quite excited about!

Using the rules as set out by Darky (except including 2kg claiming apprentices then the results for Melbourne only since start 2007 using best of 3 totes (or SP if better) are :-

50 bets, 16 wins (S/R 32%), 33 places, including wins, (S/R 66%)
Win Bank $422.00 (POT% = 84.4%), Place Bank $202.00 (POT% = 40.4%)

If we now only bet the selections that have an Average Prizemoney Ranking of 1 to 4 then the results are :-

35 bets, 15 wins (S/R 42.9%), 24 places, including wins, (S/R 68.6%)
Win Bank $479.00 (POT% = 136.9%), Place Bank $102.00 (POT% = 29.1%)

From an early look at Melbourne for tomorrow there appears only to be one selection M7#6 Maunatrice.

Let's hope it is a winner!

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The results I just quoted includes Maunatrice in the number of bets had but obviously the race has not been run so the Win and Place banks, S/R and POT% are actually slightly better than quoted.

If Maunatrice does not run a place then the results quoted will be correct.

Shouldn't rush to get the posting out!

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It does seem that Maunatrice is down in weight by 1.5kgs.

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Since I commenced putting the rules on this thread and now with your added 2 filters API = 1 - 4 and allowing up to 2 kg claiming apptc.

29 bets /12 wins /win % = 41.3 % /POT 23.1 % ( flat stakes.)/Av number of bets per week = 4.All states including Perth.

In my opinion your suggestions are very worthwhile.

My plan of attack will be .

Continue to monitor with your added suggestions for a further 3 months.


Continue to bet the original rules only until those further results are in.

Thank you so much for your intelligent , professional and insightful suggestions.

Cheers.
darky.

Thorns.

Sorry but I dont.

Cheers.
darky.

I use this site for mine, click on the F, then Speed Map

http://www.racingandsports.com.au/racing/pickmeet.asp

And thanks Trytryagain, I added api 1-4 to mine also, and also found helpful.

Thanks for the kind words Darky. Without your initial posting none of this would have been possible.

Hope everyone had Maunatrice (M7#6) today. Won very well and paid $5.00 SuperTab, $5.30 Best of 3 totes and $6.00 Top Fluccuation. Winners like these makes everything worthwhile.

As this ended up being the only winner I backed today it certainly got me out of trouble - let's hope it continues!

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Well done on Maunatrice. I didn't know Maunatrice fit the criteria, hmm, maybe I don't understand it well at all. Maybe someone can list the selections next Saturday.

Following a request which we have thought long and hard about, and after receipt of some e-mails, we have decided to now lock this thread.

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