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Try Try Again 7th February 2009 04:40 PM

A nice winner with Dance Girl Dance and a closeup 4th (at >$20 odds) with Growsir nearly gave the place betters are "bonanza".

Results today were:-

Doomben R5#3 Growsir
Doomben R7#3 Dance Girl Dance WON $4.90/$1.90

Update:
56 bets 11 winners 29 places
Outlay $56
Collect $85.00
POT 51.8%

For anyone looking purely at the place bets
Outlay $55
Collect $78.34
POT 42.4%

Until tomorrow for Caulfield selections good luck to all!

Try Try Again 8th February 2009 10:02 AM

Here are the selections for Caulfield:-

Caulfield R5#5 Tora Tora Tora
Caulfield R6#5 Happy Glen
Caulfield R7#9 Light Fantastic
Caulfield R8#8 Annesong
Caulfield R9#4 Rok Posta

Good Punting to all!

Try Try Again 8th February 2009 05:28 PM

Annesong did the right thing by us to score a good win at Caulfield and Happy Glen was a close 2nd.

Results for today were:-

Caulfield R5#5 Tora Tora Tora
Caulfield R6#5 Happy Glen 2nd -/$2.10
Caulfield R7#9 Light Fantastic
Caulfield R8#8 Annesong WON $7.50/$2.10
Caulfield R9#4 Rok Posta

Update:
61 bets 12 winners 31 places
Outlay $61
Collect $92.50
POT 51.6%

For anyone looking purely at the place bets
Outlay $60
Collect $82.54
POT 37.5%

Until next Saturday good luck to all!

Try Try Again 14th February 2009 08:45 AM

Selections for Saturday 14th February are:-

Cheltenham R7#7 Li'l Cashy
Cheltenham R8#6 Miss Pavlova
Eagle Farm R7#7 Sommersea Drive
Moonee Valley R2#8 Centurytwentyone
Moonee Valley R4#10 Sigidas
Moonee Valley R7#5 Mind Your Head
Moonee Valley R8#3 Youthful High
Moonee Valley R9#3 Count To Zero

Good Punting to all!

Try Try Again 14th February 2009 01:06 PM

Note : With Eagle Farm coming up with a HEAVY track means R7#7 Sommersea Drive is no longer a selection.

This still leaves us with 7 selections as per previous post.

Try Try Again 14th February 2009 05:33 PM

A difficult day at the office with only Centurytwentyone saluting at Moonee Valley!

Results for today were:-

Cheltenham R7#7 Li'l Cashy
Cheltenham R8#6 Miss Pavlova
Moonee Valley R2#8 Centurytwentyone WON $4.30/$2.60
Moonee Valley R4#10 Sigidas
Moonee Valley R7#5 Mind Your Head
Moonee Valley R8#3 Youthful High 2nd -/$1.80
Moonee Valley R9#3 Count To Zero

Update:
68 bets 13 winners 33 places
Outlay $68
Collect $96.80
POT 42.3%

For anyone looking purely at the place bets
Outlay $67
Collect $86.94
POT 29.7%

Until next Saturday good luck to all!

Try Try Again 21st February 2009 10:44 AM

Selections for Saturday 21st February are:-

Caulfield R1#1 Cocinero
Caulfield R2#6 Tis Isat
Caulfield R4#5 Scenic Shot
Caulfield R9#9 Delyara
Cheltenham R2#6 Star Of The Stalls
Cheltenham R4#4 Okay Oky

Good punting to all!

Try Try Again 21st February 2009 05:08 PM

Looks like we are starting to hit "the punting wall" with these Neural selections with again only one winner Okay Oky saluting in Adelaide. It however was a very, very good win over (maybe?) inferior opposition. Buried behind them on the fence, checked on the corner, had to pull across their heals with 100-150m to go and "sprouted" wings to win easily.

Results for today were:-

Caulfield R1#1 Cocinero
Caulfield R2#6 Tis Isat
Caulfield R4#5 Scenic Shot
Caulfield R9#9 Delyara
Cheltenham R2#6 Star Of The Stalls
Cheltenham R4#4 Okay Oky WON $3.60/$1.50

Update:
74 bets 14 winners 34 places
Outlay $74
Collect $100.40
POT 35.6%

For anyone looking purely at the place bets
Outlay $73
Collect $88.44
POT 21.1%

Until next Saturday good luck to all!

luv2bet 23rd February 2009 09:46 PM

hi TTA,
stick with it mate, im sure you will bounce back.

Watch the replay of okay oky race, if the toppy got out would of slaughtered em! not sure about inferior, just dead unlucky!

Try Try Again 28th February 2009 08:59 AM

Selections for Saturday 28th February are:-

Caulfield R1#3 Fifth Avenue Lady
Caulfield R7#4 Alamosa
Caulfield R8#4 Northern Point
Eagle Farm R7#3 Vocalic
Eagle farm R8#2 Tisani Boy
Morphettville R6#8 Taos Pleasure
Morphettville R7#6 The Yartz

Good punting to all!

Try Try Again 28th February 2009 05:11 PM

A very satisfying result with Taos Pleasure saluting a very juicy odds at Morphettville. Fifth Avenue Lady did the right thing and saluted at Caulfield and Tisani Boy added cream to the cake with a win at Eagle Farm. Life is good!

Results were:-

Caulfield R1#3 Fifth Avenue Lady Won $2.90/$1.20
Caulfield R7#4 Alamosa 3rd -/ntd
Caulfield R8#4 Northern Point
Eagle Farm R7#3 Vocalic
Eagle farm R8#2 Tisani Boy Won $6.00/$2.40
Morphettville R6#8 Taos Pleasure Won $22.70/$4.40
Morphettville R7#6 The Yartz

Update:
81 bets 17 winners 38 places
Outlay $81
Collect $132.00
POT 62.9%

For anyone looking purely at the place bets
Outlay $80
Collect $96.44
POT 20.5%

Until next Saturday good luck to all!

cairnspunter 28th February 2009 05:17 PM

well done! unfortunately I wasn't on them....oh well theres always next week

Try Try Again 7th March 2009 08:53 AM

Selections for Saturday 7th March are:-

Eagle Farm R7#8 Rebounded
Flemington R5#7 Typhoon Tracy
Flemington R6#3 Typhoon Zed
Flemington R8#1 Niconero
Flemington R9#13 Lord Monty
Morphettville R7#2 Merlot Now

Good punting to all!

Try Try Again 7th March 2009 04:19 PM

The good times continue with both Typhoon Tracy and Niconero saluting at Flemington!

Results were:-

Eagle Farm R7#8 Rebounded
Flemington R5#7 Typhoon Tracy Won $3.20/$1.60
Flemington R6#3 Typhoon Zed
Flemington R8#1 Niconero Won $14.40/$3.60
Flemington R9#13 Lord Monty
Morphettville R7#2 Merlot Now

Update:
87 bets 19 winners 40 places
Outlay $87
Collect $149.60
POT 71.9%

For anyone looking purely at the place bets
Outlay $86
Collect $101.64
POT 18.1%

Until next Saturday good luck to all!

Try Try Again 14th March 2009 08:22 AM

Selections for 14th March are:-

Doomben R7#4 Simplest
Flemington R5#2 Renewable
Flemington R6#8 Fifth Avenue Lady
Flemington R7#9 Time Matters
Flemington R8#5 Wilander
Flemington R9#1 Falaise
Oakbank R4#2 Cosmic Commander

Good punting to all!

Try Try Again 14th March 2009 05:27 PM

The good times continue with Renewable, Fifth Avenue Lady and Wilander saluting at Flemington!

Results were:-

Doomben R7#4 Simplest 2nd -/$2.10
Flemington R5#2 Renewable Won $2.70/$1.30
Flemington R6#8 Fifth Avenue Lady Won $3.90/$1.60
Flemington R7#9 Time Matters
Flemington R8#5 Wilander Won $3.00/$1.40
Flemington R9#1 Falaise
Oakbank R4#2 Cosmic Commander

Update:
94 bets 22 winners 44 places
Outlay $94
Collect $159.20
POT 69.3%

For anyone looking purely at the place bets
Outlay $93
Collect $108.04
POT 16.1%

Until next Saturday good luck to all!

Try Try Again 21st March 2009 08:58 AM

Selections for Saturday 21st March are:-

Caulfield R3#4 Dance On Air
Caulfield R6#1 Cocinero
Caulfield R8#5 Lady Lynette
Eagle Farm R4#1 Rags To Riches
Eagle Farm R7#3 Vocalic
Morphettville R5#4 Merlot Now
Morphettville R7#1 Absolut Glam

Good Punting to All!

Try Try Again 21st March 2009 04:50 PM

Again a couple of good winners with Dance On Air and Cocinero saluting at Caulfield.

Results were:-

Caulfield R3#4 Dance On Air WON $4.00/$1.70
Caulfield R6#1 Cocinero WON $7.50/2.30
Caulfield R8#5 Lady Lynette 3rd - /$1.60
Eagle Farm R4#1 Rags To Riches
Eagle Farm R7#3 Vocalic
Morphettville R5#4 Merlot Now
Morphettville R7#1 Absolut Glam

Update:
101bets 24 winners 47 places
Outlay $101
Collect $170.10
POT 68.4%

For anyone looking purely at the place bets
Outlay $100
Collect $113.64
POT 13.6%

Until next Saturday good luck to all!

Try Try Again 28th March 2009 08:50 AM

Selections for 28th March are :-

Caulfield R4#1 Joyeuse
Caulfield R6#3 Falaise
Caulfield R7#2 Happy Glen
Doomben R4#3 Humma
Doomben R7#4 Sequallan
Morphettville R4#4 Keepthedreamalive
Morphettville R7#5 Taos Pleasure

Good Punting to All!

Try Try Again 28th March 2009 04:29 PM

Only one winner today with Humma saluting at Doomben.

Results were:-

Caulfield R4#1 Joyeuse
Caulfield R6#3 Falaise
Caulfield R7#2 Happy Glen 2nd -/$1.50
Doomben R4#3 Humma WON $5.20/$2.10
Doomben R7#4 Sequallan
Morphettville R4#4 Keepthedreamalive 2nd -/$1.30
Morphettville R7#5 Taos Pleasure 2nd - /$3.30

Update:
108 bets 25 winners 51 places
Outlay $108
Collect $175.30
POT 62.3%

For anyone looking purely at the place bets
Outlay $107
Collect $121.84
POT 13.8%

Until next Saturday good luck to all!

Try Try Again 4th April 2009 08:25 AM

Selections for 4th April are :-

Caulfield R6#1 Diplomatic Force
Caulfield R8#4 Disciplined
Morphettville R3#2 Yarterbery
Morphettville R7#1 Annenkov

Good Punting to All!

Try Try Again 4th April 2009 04:42 PM

Only one winner again today with Duisciplined saluting at Caulfield.

Results were:-

Caulfield R6#1 Diplomatic Force
Caulfield R8#4 Disciplined WON $3.6/$1.80
Morphettville R3#2 Yarterbery 3rd -/$4.20
Morphettville R7#1 Annenkov

Update:
112 bets 26 winners 53 places
Outlay $112
Collect $178.90
POT 59.7%

For anyone looking purely at the place bets
Outlay $111
Collect $127.84
POT 15.2%

Until next Saturday good luck to all!

Try Try Again 4th April 2009 04:43 PM

Only one winner again today with Disciplined saluting at Caulfield.

Results were:-

Caulfield R6#1 Diplomatic Force
Caulfield R8#4 Disciplined WON $3.6/$1.80
Morphettville R3#2 Yarterbery 3rd -/$4.20
Morphettville R7#1 Annenkov

Update:
112 bets 26 winners 53 places
Outlay $112
Collect $178.90
POT 59.7%

For anyone looking purely at the place bets
Outlay $111
Collect $127.84
POT 15.2%

Until next Saturday good luck to all!

Try Try Again 11th April 2009 10:00 AM

Selections for 11th April are :-

Caulfield R6#7 Chasm
Caulfield R7#2 Happy Glen
Caulfield R8#8 Ravishing Reward
Eagle Farm R7#2 Friendly Embrace

Good Punting to All!

Try Try Again 11th April 2009 05:10 PM

Again one winner today with Happy Glen saluting at Caulfield.

Results were:-

Caulfield R6#7 Chasm 2nd -/$2.00
Caulfield R7#2 Happy Glen Won $8.50/$2.50
Caulfield R8#8 Ravishing Reward
Eagle Farm R7#2 Friendly Embrace

Update:
116 bets 27 winners 55 places
Outlay $116
Collect $187.40
POT 61.5%

For anyone looking purely at the place bets
Outlay $115
Collect $132.34
POT 15.0%

Until next Saturday good luck to all!

Try Try Again 18th April 2009 08:01 AM

Selections for 18th April are:-

Eagle Farm R6#6 Vocalic
Eagle Farm R7#6 Momentously
Flemington R5#1 Happy Glen
Flemington R6#2 Marching
Morphettville R7#14 Impressive Eagle

Good Punting to All!

Twodogs 18th April 2009 09:13 AM

Good Luck Try Try Again,

Would you know how your selections have gone had you only bet the on pace/handy runners?

Cheers and good luck
Twodogs

jake 18th April 2009 12:31 PM

impressive..try try again..do you utilise nns for other sporting events? if so how have you been travelling?

Try Try Again 18th April 2009 05:15 PM

Not so good today with only 2 placings!

Results were:-

Eagle Farm R6#6 Vocalic
Eagle Farm R7#6 Momentously
Flemington R5#1 Happy Glen 3rd -/$2.40
Flemington R6#2 Marching 2nd -/$1.50
Morphettville R7#14 Impressive Eagle

Update:
121 bets 27 winners 57 places
Outlay $121
Collect $187.40
POT 53.2%

For anyone looking purely at the place bets
Outlay $120
Collect $136.24
POT 13.5%

Until next Saturday good luck to all!

Hi Two Dogs - No I have not even looked at that aspect. I've been pretty happy with how they have performed.

Hi Jake - Only looked at Horses as the information is so readily available. Not sure where you would locate info for other sports.

Try Try Again

Twodogs 20th April 2009 09:21 AM

Hi Try Try Again,

Reading many of your posts I am sure you would have done your homework. I do enjoy reading your thoughts.

Cheers
Twodogs

Try Try Again 20th April 2009 09:26 AM

Hi Two Dogs,

I do like horses that run on the pace in preference to horses coming from behind as they are less likely to meet with inteference.

I do not have the information available to check back over my neural selections to see if some horses could have been eliminated due to their running pattern.

Thanks for the interest.

Twodogs 25th April 2009 03:31 PM

Nothing today Try Try Again?

Hope all is well?

Twodogs

Try Try Again 25th April 2009 05:31 PM

Hi Twodogs,

You wouldn't believe it I forgot to post the selections!

Just so we can continue the the post they were:-

Eagle Farm R1#3 Fat Possum 2nd -/$2.80
Eagle Farm R7#3 Black Ink
Eagle Farm R8#9 Momentously
Flemington R4#6 Youthful High 3rd -/$3.40
Flemington R5#13 Imashadow Won $5.50/$2.50
Flemington R7#2 Chasm Won $2.40/$1.40
Morphettville R7#2 Royal Ida

Update:
128 bets 29 winners 61 places
Outlay $128
Collect $195.3
POT 52.5%

For anyone looking purely at the place bets
Outlay $127
Collect $147.34
POT 16.0%

Until next Saturday, and I hope I don't forget to post again, good luck to all!

crash 26th April 2009 05:55 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Try Try Again
Hi Two Dogs,

I do like horses that run on the pace in preference to horses coming from behind as they are less likely to meet with inteference.

I do not have the information available to check back over my neural selections to see if some horses could have been eliminated due to their running pattern.

Thanks for the interest.


It's very difficult for back-markers to win unless there is a genuine pace, especially in races of more than 1100-1200m. A 'genuine pace' is a race that is run within 2 sec. [12 lengths] of the track record for the conditions on the day.

Unless a race has at least 2 leaders [preferably more], a single leader will put the brakes on and turn the race into a jog and sprint, making it almost impossible for back-markers to wind up and run down the leaders.
Leaders or on-pacers generally win these races and accounts for most races above 1200m nowadays. Working out what the race pace is going to be is no easy task without the right info. Also, sectional times are useless unless the race concerned was truly run.

Try Try Again 26th April 2009 05:22 PM

Hi Crash,

Couldn't agree more!

Try Try Again 2nd May 2009 08:04 AM

Selections for 2nd May are :-

Caulfield R2#1 Running Riot
Caulfield R3#2 Down Under Boy
Caulfield R5#2 Pinnacles
Caulfield R6#1 Here De Angels
Caulfield R8#5 Royal Charades
Gold Coast R2#3 Agnes Dream
Gold Coast R7#1 El Cambio
Gold Coast R8#8 Russeting
Morphettville R5#1 Delyara
Morphettville R6#1 Takeover Target

Good Punting to all!

Try Try Again 2nd May 2009 05:43 PM

Royal Charades and the Champ Takeover Target saluted for us today

Results were:-

Caulfield R2#1 Running Riot 3rd -/$1.80
Caulfield R3#2 Down Under Boy 2nd -/$1.60
Caulfield R5#2 Pinnacles
Caulfield R6#1 Here De Angels Scr
Caulfield R8#5 Royal Charades Won $3.70/$1.70
Gold Coast R2#3 Agnes Dream
Gold Coast R7#1 El Cambio 3rd -/$2.30
Gold Coast R8#8 Russeting 3rd - /$3.90
Morphettville R5#1 Delyara
Morphettville R6#1 Takeover Target Won $1.50/$1.20

Update:
137 bets 31 winners 67 places
Outlay $137
Collect $200.5
POT 46.3%

For anyone looking purely at the place bets
Outlay $136
Collect $159.84
POT 17.5%

Until next Saturday good luck to all!

reded 9th May 2009 12:58 PM

Guess you forgot to post your selections again

Twodogs 9th May 2009 02:20 PM

Where are you Try Try Again? Love following your selections each week as you do so well.

Cheers
Twodogs

Try Try Again 11th May 2009 12:05 PM

Hi Reded & Twodogs,

Sorry for not putting the selections up on Saturday but family commitments meant I just didn't get time. I appreciate your interest in the neurals.

There were 7 selections with just one winner (and one other placegetter - paid $1.20). I guess this was fortunate for me (and unfortunate for anyone following the selections) as the winner was Ladies In Luck which paid $12.20/$3.80.

As I will be away for the next 2 weekends the rules are given below.
  1. Only consider Metropolitan races on Saturdays
  2. Set Neurals to 3 for CF, TIM, CRS, DIST, $
  3. Set WT to 0 for Good/Fast, 1 for Dead, 2 for Slow and 3 for Heavy
  4. All other Neural setting are set to zero
  5. No Sydney races
  6. No Heavy tracks
  7. No equal rated races
  8. Only consider WFA, Open, F&M, Mares, C,H&G, 4yo+, and Class 6 (Note that the Class 6 is "open" Class 6 races and not "restricted" Class 6 races for F&M, 4yo+ or Mares etc.
  9. Qualifier must have both CF and TIM >=10 except for distance races where the qualifier must have CF >= 10 as no TIM is given for distance races
Results since 26th July 2008 are:-

255 bets
70 winners S/R 27.5%
129 places S/R 50.6%
Win bank $141.00 POT% 55.3%
Place bank $23.04 POT% 9.1%

Best of luck with all who jump aboard the Neural train and may it continue to throw up winners!


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