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Raw Instinct 21st October 2009 05:45 PM

Thanks Crash no worries

Raw Instinct 21st October 2009 05:56 PM

Crash anyone would think the horse ran awfully granted it wasn't anything spectacular but it got held up in the straight by Young Centaur and hit the line fairly decently I felt from where it was on the turn not saying i wanted to through the house on it or anything but I am happy enough to have something on heading towards the cup if it gets in there.

Reckless 21st October 2009 06:24 PM

I heard it bled ---cant remember if one or both nostrils.

Raw Instinct 21st October 2009 08:55 PM

I was talking about Basaltico which was who I had tipped which Crash obviously felt was a garbage tip, Guyno did bleed from both nostrels from what i have heard.

On a side note the fact that Oliver rode the horse was no reason why I tipped it he is one jockey who has never swayed me to tip him he simply never wins when I do tip something he is riding regardless of price.

crash 22nd October 2009 06:00 AM

I think my main point about BASALTICO and why I got stuck into him was because of the ridiculously short pp odds it never deserved. No form guide mentioned the fact that his last start 2nd was in a C2 only worth $40k. nor overall poor form for the last year.

Anyway he won't be making it into the Cup and really should be sent back to Italy. I can't work out why the horse ever came here in the first place [?]

Raw Instinct 22nd October 2009 06:36 AM

The fact he beat home Cima De Triomphe by about 11 lengths in a group 1 in November last year where he came from last and Cima De Triomphe pretty much had the run of the race was most of the reason why I was tipping him the run was very good I had seen it on the net before making the tip granted that form was 12 months old but thought it was good enough to be competitive at the odds that were available.

crash 22nd October 2009 09:10 AM

I see your point Raw, but 12mth old form [8 poor starts ago] is not worth a cracker really, nor the short odds in the Geelong Cup for a first-up run in Oz after a 6wk break. A bookie's 'hype' horse I think. I'll stick to my original 'should have been 50/1'. Would have been about right in hindsight.

darkydog2002 22nd October 2009 02:37 PM

A bit tongue in cheek I suppose BUT???
 
Put a line through all the wiz bang tipsters selections and those flogged to death in the racing columns then bet all the other horses that havent got a mention.

Cheers.
darky

Horse Whisperer 2nd November 2009 08:12 PM

Interesting to see how the runners mentioned earlier in this thread run tomorrow in the big one. Roman Emperor, Allez Wonder, Capecover, Mourilyan, Harris Tweed, Viewed and Basaltico

partypooper 3rd November 2009 12:33 AM

ok
 
Well how about a distance winner???? no 17 Spin Around??

Raw Instinct 3rd November 2009 07:49 AM

I am turning into a fan of both Basaltico and Mourilyan here today be interesting to see how they go I don't think Munsef is hopeless either has a bit of a Jardine's Lookout feel about it just looks like it will keep whacking away.

crash 3rd November 2009 08:19 AM

Well if Savite plays the sacrifice again this start to set up a bit of pace for Bart's horse's, a lot of this field are going to be caught out by the cup distance. Their not going to get the jog and sprint they want. A genuine stayer should win this and if Alcopop is the real article [can go the distance] he should win but he is yet to prove himself in a really tough race and is poor odds.

The tipsters have been all flogging Viewed and the Breakfast Cereal to death so it might be worth going wide and looking at proven stayers and keeping an eye on the track condition before final selection[s].

Filante 3rd November 2009 08:50 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Raw Instinct
I am turning into a fan of both Basaltico and Mourilyan here today be interesting to see how they go I don't think Munsef is hopeless either has a bit of a Jardine's Lookout feel about it just looks like it will keep whacking away.


Basaltico missed the start at Geelong then got checked in the straight. Even so, when he got clear he didn't seem to accelerate as fast as the winner. No doubt he'll be better with the run under his belt and up to 3200m, but it was a pretty weak Geelong Cup. I think he and Crime Scene are the two overseas horses with some hope.

pharfromoz 3rd November 2009 11:29 AM

shocking- time to step it up, love the turn of foot. c brown needs to sit him in the garden spot early.

basaltico- wants the track wet
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heres what im looking at

#1 viewed
#3 fiumicino
#18 basaltico
20f,21f- daffodil/shocking

crash 3rd November 2009 02:45 PM

Alcopops didn't go the distance and Viewed was never in it as top weight. Proven stayers 1,2,3!

Bottom weights ruling the day mostly and the bookies will be partying tonight!

Try Try Again 3rd November 2009 03:08 PM

Congratulations to Jake Stephens (Alcopop) and Jarryd McLean (Kibbutz) for getting their horses to run in the first 10. Two young trainers and I'm sure the $115K will be well received.

darkydog2002 3rd November 2009 04:06 PM

Dark horses eh.
Well I bought me old mate ""erry" (he,s a bit of a dark horse )along to the races after his stint at the Bangkok Hilton. Dressed up like toffs we were -blue singlets and shorts (we only had 1 pair of thongs so we shared 1 each - thats mates for ya.
As we entered the fashions of the field some old toff asked us whether we,d lost a thong .Nah we said "found one"
Anyway we didnt win there either but all in all a very pleasant day.
darky


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