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Do you know when they go live Pat?
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Line looks right odds look right, if they maintain that & dont limit they will quickly garner business - for example with the only online bookie I pay attention to at the moment -
$2 Lines Manly Sea Eagles - -4.0 @ 2.00 $2 Lines Canterbury Bulldogs - +4.0 @ 2.00 Even money lines for ENTIRE NRL season. NO MULTIS, MAX BET $200 (1 wager per client per match). Now I am not a regular sports bettor but when I have a go, I have a go & I dunno about anyone else around this place but $200 wasnt a big bet amount 20 years ago when I started to get serious about all this - $200 limits in 2014 are a joke. |
Like I said they are aiming to go live in time for the world cup.
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I would love if a MEMO was sent out to all the bookmakers that limit warning them of the impending competition :P
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as if they care., the people they want are those who lose and only bet on their teams. Pinnacle won't advertise to them on tv so they won't pick up any of the easy money. It won't make a difference.
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Yeah it probably won't make a big dent I must admit.
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Just cannot get my head around how they are going to offer horseracing.
They must pay a levy and if they start putting up markets at 102%, they will get taken to the cleaners by the sharp guys. Even with staggered limits. My guess is they will do some sort of ANTEPOST, but that's it for major Metro races, but still, it's going to be very interesting. |
It will be interesting. Looking forward to the day I can click on the racing tab.
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Thanks, I should have clarified - live for the nags - assume it will all be at the same time. |
Yeah and racing supposedly 2 weeks after they go public.
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Should be launching Friday.
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Well that launch didn't go well. Lots of 404 errors on links.
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Yeah have you actually clicked on anything.
https://www.pinnaclebet.com.au/undefined/sport/ That throws a 404 error and that's from clicking a link on the first page. And there is more then 1 broken link. https://www.pinnaclebet.com.au/info...defined/racing/ https://www.pinnaclebet.com.au/info...ined/contact-us Poor coding for the site doesn't give me much confidence in them. |
Maybe it works cause you have an account t but no one without an account can see a thing .... lol.... hopeless
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I worked it out. It doesn't work in half the browsers I have. It only works in one of them.
Perhaps they need to assess that not everyone uses the same browser. |
In July when racing starts I wonder what,
They will offer product wise for "NON METROPOLITAN", Races held in AUSTRALIA. If it's the BO3 totes & fixed odds betting with their, Current spiel on nobody is barred then I will be aboard. Cheers. |
I've got an account and use chrome. There still may be a few glitches but I haven't had any issues yet.
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Pinnaclebet is 1x deposit turnover for laundering reasons.
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No news on the racing product. It was supposed to be brought out 2 weeks into the world cup. Maybe they have given up on the idea!
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You can have em!
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Why doesn't that surprise me? I opened an account with them this week, and still haven't been able to place a sports bet! I need to verify my account but every time I try, the screen reverts from Account Info to the Home page. They've suspended my account pending the IT dept sorting it. The IT guru must be away, as they're in no hurry to sort it. Maybe he's out here in Australia? Wish he'd get back home sometime soon.... :( |
I'd suggest their plan has been thwarted by the realization that they have to pay turnover tax to the various racing bodies. They may still go ahead, but it's also one hell of a programming job when their entire platform is completely different to any other bookie.
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They couldn't have been that naive/ill informed could they?
Whichever, it's an inauspicious start. |
According to the head of pinnaclebet racing is 100% still happening, it's just a matter of when, they said hopefully within a month.
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I'm confused Pat. Why do you need Pinnacle as you've already stated that you have a bookie (unnamed) that bets top odds, lets you on for any amounts and will not ban you.
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Bigger takes :) i dont get let on for any amount atm
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Just seen this on the web, not sure how accurate and if true, what has caused it:
" Due to changes to British gambling licensing regulations, Pinnacle Sports will after September 30th, 2014, be unable to offer services " Now this is the parent company, not the Aus version. What's going on?? |
People in the UK just can't use Pinnacle Sports from that date. Nothing to do with Aus site.
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Licencing issue.
http://www.online-betting.me.uk/blo...g-business.html Online betting site Pinnacle are set to become the latest operator to announce that they are ready to pull out of the British market. This is over the controversial Point of Consumption licensing regime installed by the British Government, where off-shore operators, as most online bookmakers are, suddenly become liable for heavy taxes. Taxation is placed on any bet received from within the British Isles under the new law, which is supposed to level the playing field so that brick and mortar betting shops in Britain aren’t the only ones facing taxes. Most online bookmakers set up off-shore in places like Gibraltar and Malta to avoid British taxation Pinnacle released as statement this week, with the Asian operator saying that it would be closing all accounts belonging to customers registered in Great Britain on 30 September – the day before the new licensing framework is due to go live. “Due to imminent changes to British gambling licensing regulations, Pinnacle Sports will after September 30th, 2014, be unable to offer our services to any players resident in Great Britain,” a statement from the firm read. “We thank all British players for betting with Pinnacle Sports, and should we obtain a British gambling licence in the future, we would be more than happy to accept your business.” SBObet, 12Bet and Mansion have already announced that they making adjustments to what they are going to be offering to the British market, pulling select products before the Point of Consumption tax. According to the Gambling Commission website, Pinnacle has made an application for an operating licence, however, due to the operator’s current Curacao-licensed status, it has been unable to apply for the transitional licences available to whitelisted licensed operators. |
Seems the whole thing is a furphy, with the Caulfield Cup on Saturday, they are still displaying "Coming Soon" for their racing.
I highly doubt they'll make the Carnival at this rate. I realise it's only Monday, but their server is slow and it looks like no work has been done on the racing section at all. I'd be happy to be proven wrong though. |
Well shiver me timbers!
Pinnaclebet horseracing is live. However, they are offering fixed odds @ around 132% and Best Tote @ around 115%. Might be good news for arbers and those who use bookies, but I thought we'd see a different product with reduced commission :( Not for me, but others might find a use for it. Makes me wonder, will they ban successful horseracing punters??? |
It's says 'Winners Welcome', just like Pinnacle Sports.
That would be a bit unique v corporates here yes? Is that why they got hung, drawn and quartered in the UK, Chrome i.e. the other guys could see they had cornered a niche in the market and ganged up on them - forced them out etc?? Cheers LG |
Just did some checking on odds etc
SA R1 - they are showing odds for NSW / Unitab / STAB SO .. assuming none of the above would throw you out if you start winning v corporates, how are these guys any different?? Cheers LG |
It's best tote and fixed odds products that throw you out.
However it looks like their sports model is a far cry from their racing model. Of course some punters will find it a great product, but from my perspective, I can't see any advantage for myself. |
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Jesus, never did i think we'd see the day! I've been told numerous times from the owner and other employees e.g. sandy that they'll never limit or ban. They use winners and actually WANT arbers lol. |
alright so they're just copying topsport's odds lol.
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Which means we'll never get a bet on because they are way under the market. Wish I could lay at Topsport prices. :(
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