Will believe it when I can place a bet.

Anyone here have a Sportingbet account?

LOL! Check this email from Ladbrokes where you have to fill in a form and basically re-apply for a "limited account":



Hi Patrick

​Thank you for contacting Ladbrokes.com.au

Thank you for applying for a limited account under the NSW Race Fields Legislation.

In order to assess your application for account re-activation you will be required to supply the information listed below.

- Completed Account Re-Activation Form (Attached)
- Certified Copy of Drivers Licence or Passport
- Copy of Credit Card (Front and Back)
- Copy of Credit Card Statement
- Copy of Utility Bill showing address of account

Once all documents have been received, the application will be reviewed and assessed.

NOTE: You maybe required to register your Devices with us (maximum of 2 devices). We will be contact to arrange this in due course.

Outcome of the application will notified within 10 working days.

Should you have any questions please contact support.


Kind Regards


Adrian
Customer Support

Dunno about any of you, but there is no way I would be supplying that type of personal info to a bookmaker. & 'register devices', err yeah right...

So I assume that is the corps new strategy - make the process as invasive as possible in the hope most people will just walk away from them.

I was using one of the bookie ipad apps the other day and it wouldn't work unless I allowed it to track my location. I guess it's to stop one person using multiple devices with bowler accounts.

Pretty invasive, but if that's what they have to do to protect themselves and stay in business, then I suppose it's not unreasonable.

Knew it, more hurdles than Sally Pearson!!!
In my case, I don't have and have never had a passport and all utility bills are in someone else's name. Plus you need to have the same IP address, so cannot use a remote server, and there is no way I'd be showing them details of the credit card statement. They want to know who else you are betting with, and in what amounts.

What they want amounts to open access to your complete personal details.
There is a huge risk of identity theft, by anyone able to access the personal details, whether it be a sacked member of the organisation or one of their "friends".

10 day turnaround, if they say no, they still have you on the database and that information will go on the merry go round.

Forget it, from my point of view.

CP the identity theft issues alone are reason enough not to go anywhere near this ****, some of the most supposedly secure of organisations are regularly compromised & they seriously expect people to hand that info over?

So this is just clearly a way to discourage & it looks like there might be better options out there anyway - off twitter -

Richard Irvine @riracing · Aug 29
Had my account reopened by all Corporates except Bet365. They refuse to. What a lovely, community minded organisation. Better go dob to RNSW


& this just for laughs...

Richard Irvine @riracing · Aug 24
Heard that William Hill's $700 million investment in Australia has been revalued at $320 million. Don't you just hate deductions!

That river of gold from AU->UK got cut in half... oh the humanity!

BET365 has since re-opened Richard Irvine's account.

Might just leave Ladbrokes for now. They're the only ones who have closed my account anyway. They're really hell bent on blocking winners aren't they..

Whoops.....I'd keep stuff like that quiet, if I was you CP, especially when you've posted in a thread titled, "Where's CP gone?":


1st November 2013, 08:23 PM

Very nice to be noticed missing, I had to go overseas urgently due to some family trauma, but I'm back and will be contributing to the forum.
Many thanks to all who were concerned and curious.

I guess that confirms it, our border control is pretty slack.... :)

This has got to be bullshot.
I can see all the complaints about these "bookies" being tied up in court for years.
You should refuse to supply anything and email Racing NSW. I'm sure this would not be part of the deal. And everyone should do it until they are hounded out of the country. Leeches.

Tassie is overseas RP, last time I checked anyway;)

That is true RP, I don't have an Australian passport, should have mentioned that part, I have an Irish passport, which they will not accept. I was born in Australia, but my late father was Irish, and both my grandparents. I have an Irish passport due to Irish generation law which enables me to travel England, Ireland and most other countries without the restrictions that an Australian passport draws. That's about as much as I can say on that matter. Because I have an Australian Birth Certificate, am an Australian Citizen, most places including banking institutions reject my Irish passport.
I've tried to explain Irish generation law, but they just don't get it. Hence when I say I don't have a passport, I mean an Australian passport - never had one.

Yep, already done!

Btw, if anyone has any issues contact: cwilson@racingnsw.com.au

Anyone got Samuel L Jackson's email address??? :D

One issue to consider - ever had to get documents certified by a JP to open a betting account?

Not this little black duck...

The ACCC has his email address I heard.

Hey Pat,
Any info on Pinnacle horseracing yet?
I see they have horseracing terms and conditions and bet types, but that Coming Soon... page is still there?

13 days ago i was told "we're close and looking forward to tearing it up". I've asked the guy way too many times now whats the update on racing so won't ask again.

I'd suggest phoning them or going on chat.

Do you know if those terms and conds were recently put up or were they there from the start?

Thanks Pat.

Well.... TAB just rejected my $20 bet on Grafton, to win $64.

Guess they didn't get the memo...

Doesn't surprise me at all, it's going to be a toothless tiger for sure.
A punter is going to have to take them to court and even if he wins, they'll find a wiggle clause to stop him.
Prove that you are not a bowler etc.

Video record your next rejected bet and email your complaint to the email addresses I provided. They're not allowed to reject bets.

Ok,

So I just tried placing a $5 bet through TAB and Sportsbet - BOTH REJECTED!

Centrebet and Sportingbet both quoting reduced odds when logged in which changed back when logged out.

What

The

F.

Remember my reference to the "Wiggles", if you're allowed on, it will be at ridiculous odds. The corporates are savvy at loopholes.
Come 1st September, today, they aren't suddenly open the floodgates to winners. It doesn't behove them to do this. It is what it is, it looked good on paper and the toothless tiger will do nothing about it.
They have to let you on NSW racing, but you'll get the worst dividend.

In summary, nothing has changed, nor is likely to in the foreseeable future unfortunately.

Sportsbet are now letting me on over the net - had to call up though! Luxbet you have to email customer service. TAB phone lines are backed up.

How are the odds though Pat?

Wouldn't know. I'm too busy calling TAB and Luxbet - both are still refusing to take bets and Luxbet won't even provide the fixed odds option.

Richard Irvine ‏@riracing 1m
I'm betting with Lux, Sportingbet, Sportsbet, Bet365 and Betstar. All are betting me and being fair.

Tom W and Sportsbet complying so far.

Ofcourse they are! He's richard irvine lol.

no doubt that helps his cause

Just saw my first post min bet Arb through Sportsbet on no. 4 Grafton R8.

That's enough for me! Just gotta be bothered to fill out those forms for the other jokers like tab and luxbet.

*and no.9.

Anyone here previously barred from Luxbet fixed odds and has since had NSW fixed re-instated?

Managed a small bet today....on Sandown!
Fixed odds are back for me with Sportsbet.
Still waiting for 365 and refuse to go through all the lads ********e, for now anyway.

Sportsbet of all bookies are leading the way.