Sorry to be a pain Duritz but i had 3 winners which produced $13.00 with NSW Divs.

LOL yes sorry you did have that.... I don't know how I managed to stuff up not just one of your winners, but two!

Here's the NEW table, with testarossa rightly on top of it, and a link to it as an excel spreadsheet below.

Sorry, it's my first day...

player bets wins collects Profit/loss %POT
testarossa 10 3 13.1 3.1 31%
Duritz 10 2 10.9 0.9 9%
Sportz 10 3 10.6 0.6 6%
Chuck 8 2 8.2 0.2 2%
Goldcoaster 10 3 9.3 -0.7 -7%
Real Deal 4 1 3.1 -0.9 -23%
sirpent 9 2 6.2 -2.8 -31%
Seeker11 4 0 0 -4 -100%
bl4dez 6 1 1.9 -4.1 -68%
Svenvlad 6 1 1.7 -4.3 -72%
feather 10 2 5.6 -4.4 -44%
mercurial 5 0 0 -5 -100%
zorro 10 2 4.7 -5.3 -53%
raw instinct 8 0 0 -8 -100%
kiwi 9 0 0 -9 -100%
Random 10 0 0 -10 -100%
Heavyweight 10 0 0 -10 -100%

Am still trying to work out the way of working out the leader in this comp, too. Should it be worked out on $$ won or on %POT? Whilst purists who mustn't punt would say the better judge is he/she with the higher %POT, it's $$ in your pocket that count, and it is harder to maintain a high %POT with more selections, so I am thinking why penalise those who don't wimp out by tipping only one pick? Therefore, I am thinking overall $$ profit is the best way to gauge it.

Other thoughts on the matter?

5 times winnings + POT for that week?

Top 5 scores would be as follows:

testarossa 86.5
Duritz 63.5
Sportz 59
Chuck 43
Goldcoaster 39.5


just a thought?

hmmm...having second thoughts. Perhaps it creates too much of a gap?

BTW i am rather enjoying this good old chat with myself! :D

Yeah I think that might be unnecessarily complicating things. Really, dollars won is most important. It's not most important if everyone's having different amounts on, but when we're all just having $1 on each selection, then it's the MOULA in the POCKET which counts!

Example:

Person A has had 100 bets, 20 winners, collect 120, for a lovely 20 unit profit.

Person B has had only 10 bets, for 2 winners, collect 13, for a 3 unit profit.

In my book, person A has gone better, however if we used %POT then Person B has gone better, even though person B's profit is very small and able to be eroded with just a couple of losers, whereas Person A could have 20 losers in a row and still not be losing.

That's why I'll go with $$ profit as the criteria for the leaderboard.

OK all you can get your tips in whenever you like from now. As I stated I'll use overall $$ profit as the determination as to who's winning.

Best of luck!!

PS - I prob won't post the results this week until either late Sunday or early Monday.

MR4 No.2
MR5 No.1
MR6 No.7
MR7 No.2

MRO1 No. 4 Leveller
MR05 No. 5 Force Apollo
BR07 No.4 Proudly Agro
SRO4 No. 3 No Penalty

Warwick Farm:
2-1 Court Caughting
4-1 Zingham

Caulfield:
2-1 Loyal Lauren
5-1 Roman Arch
6-1 Don't Tell Tom
7-1 Gallic

Morphetville:
6-1 Honalee

Why yes i do think the handicapper is going to do a good job tomorrow!!!

MR2 No.3 Star Peril
MR3 No.1 Bruges
MR5 No.3 Gold Wells
AR3 No.6 OurPerfect World
AR4 No.3 Pommery Princess
AR5 No.4 Golden Gladiator
AR6 No.1 Honalee
BR5 No.1 Tornado Alley

But if no.1 wins all the time, then I guess the handicapper hasn't really done a good job because he obviously hasn't given them enough weight. :)

the new tipping comp
 

doomben race 2 no 2 shilo
race 3 no 1 katsidis
w farm race 9 no 7 legendary man
caulfield race 4 no 8 cunamulla lass
race 5 no 5 force apollo
belmont race 2 no 4 drifter
race 3 no 8 royal minx
race 4 no 3 field commander
race 8 no 12 twice
m'ville race 9 no 5 belle gino

BR1 - Posh touch
BR2 - Shilo
BR8 - Kengrande
SR6 - Cateclipse

SYD RACE 9
no.7
ADEL RACE 6
no.4

MR 7 #7 Lightning Command
BR 3 #2 Rashini
BR 6 #10 Little Punc
BR 7 #2 St. Basil
AR 7 #2 Tingirana
PR 1 #6 Raw Metal
PR 3 #1 Bon Argent
PR 7 #1 True Steel

SR1 NO1 ALL KNOWLEDGE
SR2 NO3 FAMOUS DANE
SR3 NO6 IMPATIENT STAR
SR4 NO2 JACKMAN
SR5 NO5 WATERWISE
SR6 NO4 BROMIDE
SR7 NO8 RADIO SONG
SR8 NO7 ASHKABAR
SR9 NO5 FIRE AT WILL

SR1-4
SR7-6
SR9-7

MR2-3
MR3-1
MR7-1
MR8-2

BR1-3
BR5-4

AR6-1

Warwick Farm

Race 4: 3.No Penalty
Race 9: 7.Legendary Man


Caulfield:

Race 3: 1.Bruges
Race 5: 3.Gold Wells
Race 6: 7.Barabba Road
Race 7: 1.Gallic
Race 8: 2.Middlemarch


Morphettville:

Race 4: 2.Policia
Race 6: 8.Opononi
Race 7: 3.Merlot Now

VR3-2 COS I’M FREE
PR3-3 TANTRA DANCER
MR2-2 BRILLIANT JEWEL
MR8 -2 MIDDLEMARCH
QR1-8 KALINGA EMMA
SR 9-7 LEGENDARY MAN
BR2-2 SHIL0
BR5-1 TORNADO ALLEY
AR5 -4 GOLDEN GLADIATOR
AR6 - 1 HONALEE

OK here's mine!!!!

Come on Duritz!!!!


BRIS R4 #4
WF R6 #1
TWBA R4 #7
BEL R2 #6
BEL R3 #5
BEL R4 #7
CAU R6 #1


Good luck all

SR R7 (7) TEMPLATE
SR R9 (7) LEGENDARY MAN
MR R3 (1) BRUGES
MR R4 (2) FISCAL MADNESS
MR R7 (7) LIGHTNING COMMAND
BR R1 (3) FRISCO AGOGO
BR R2 (2) SHILO
BR R8 (10) JIMMY THE BEAR
AR R6 (1) HONALEE
AR R8 (9) BOUNCING AROUND

Doom R2-2 Shilo
Doom R5-4 Octanee
Doom R6-11 Pure Octane
Morp R3-4 Ride The Rocket
Morp R6-1 Honalee
Belm R2-4 Drifter
Belm R6-10 No Questions
Hawk R3-3 Abergavenny Angel
Hawk R8-4 Sheerama
Camp R8-2 Many Are Called

please add: SR07-1 Covet Thee

Gold Coast

R1 H 8

Syd

R 6 H 8

R 9 H 8

Brisbane

R 6 H 10

R 7 H 2

R8 H 2

Perth

R 1 H1

R 2 H 6

R3 H 7

R8 H 11

Was bored so i worked out the place returns.


-----------------PL/BETS---PL%---AVE DIV---OVERALL RET---PROFIT/LOSS
SIRPENT----------12/18____66_____$2.04______$24.50_______+$6.50
DURITZ-----------10/17____58_____$2.18______$21.80_______+$4.80
ZORRO------------9/14_____64_____$1.78______$16.10_______+$2.10
MECURIAL---------6/8______75_____$1.68______$10.10_______+$2.10
SVENVLAD---------4/10____40_____$2.90______$11.60_______+$1.60
GOLDCOASTER----12/20____60_____$1.66______$20.00_______EVEN
KIWI--------------9/19_____47_____$2.08______$18.80_______-$0.20
CHUCK------------7/16_____43_____$2.05______$14.40_______-$1.60
BL4DEZ------------3/8_____37_____$1.66_______$5.00_______-$3.00
SPORTZ----------11/20____55______$1.51______$16.70_______-$3.30
TESTAROSSA------9/20____45______$1.76______$15.90_______-$4.10
FEATHER----------9/20_____45_____$1.64______$14.80________-$5.20
RAW INSTINCT----4/16_____25_____$1.80_______$7.20________-$8.80
HEVYWEIGHT------6/20_____30_____$1.58______$9.50________-$10.50
RANDOM-----------5/19____26______$1.68______$8.40________-$10.60
SEEKER11---------0/12_____0_______0__________0___________-$12.00

i wonder why?

couldn't you have done the win returns on my behalf?

Yeah, looks suspicious, doesn't it Chuck? :D

I think Sirpent just didn't want to step on Duritz's toes by working out the win part.

Interesting figures there. No surprise to me that I have the lowest ave place div. Too many damn short priced favs. :(

LOL sorry I have been so slack - there have been very good reasons that I haven't been able to do the results yet though. Am tallying them now, will have them shortly.

(PS - am modyfiying the spreadsheet too, it'll kiss ********!)

Oops, that was meant to say it'll KICK ********, not KISS ********....

So, I won't bother putting the table up here b/c it looks silly, I'll just post the results as an excel file below. There are four worksheets in the excel file. Here's an explanation of each:

Ranked - Is the total of the two weeks, sorted into order of best to last.
Totals - the totals, unranked
This week - fairly self explanatory
Last week - yep.

We had some better tipping this week, and two people have kind of kicked away!! We only had the one blowout this week (ie no winners tipped). Also, people tended to reach out a bit further into the country to find winners, with people tipping in - and getting winners in - the Gold Coast, Camperdown, Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide, Perth and Hawksbury. I was the only fool to tip one in Toowoomba, which ran second. I also got the shortest priced winner for the week, $1.10 on Supertab, courtesy of a dead heating Amber's Halo.

I'd like thoughts from everyone - I am considering extending the comp to include midweek. Essentially, if you want to put in some tips during the week (any day at all) you just post them and they count to your score. The only day people would be compelled to tip would be Saturday, the other days being bonus days should you wish to utilise them. Of course, it could blow up in your face, too, if you tip heaps of losers.

What do we think?

I was wondering about that. :D

Hey Sportz, I just added more to my earlier post, read what I wrote and tell me what you think if you have time?

Thanks.

Yeah, I guess so, but that could possibly give the people who can't tip midweek a disadvantage??? Then again, we're basing this on profit/loss instead of money won aren't we? So, it should be okay.

Well, if it is okay i'm going to be the first to do some midweek bets:

Moe:
7-5 Kildonan Road

Quanbeyan:
7-1 Peaks:

Tamworth
3-4 Lady Toy

Yeah that would be OK. The rules as you just stipulated would be OK too. Is it too late really for April or can we just implement it right away, or starting next week (which would give all contributors a chance to see the changes this weekend). What do you think?

Ahh sorry guys. I deleted my post. I thought maybe Duritz would think that my idea was too much trouble. :o

Well, seeing as you seem to think it's okay, here's my idea again:

Everyone to have a minimum of 5 bets and a maximum of 15 bets each week.
You can have any or all of these bets on any day of the week.
You can give tips on any Australian TAB meeting.
Scores to be tallied up at the end of each week.