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Carnegie Express 2nd November 2005 07:01 PM

Horse to consider 1/11/2005:

Flemington race 3 # 1 Brace Lancer

no bet as was under $3.50. Result third at $1.40

Eagle Farm race 1 # 3 La Bella Mer

no bet as was under $3.50. Result won. $2.10 $1.40

Morphettville race 7 # 8 Oahu

no bet as was under $3.50. Result unplaced.

outlay $0

Return $0

accumulative -$247.50


Carnegie Express 4th November 2005 03:33 PM

Horse to consider 5/11/2005:

Flemington race 4 # 1 Zipping

Flemington race 9 # 18 Barricades

Randwick race 2 # 3 Rationalize

Randwick race 9 # 3 Triple Dee


Privateer 4th November 2005 06:24 PM

Hi C.E.

Your method has the basis of being "doable" but I respectfully offer the following considerations and thoughts:

Perhaps only bet on Metro events?

The "within 4 lengths" theory is one of the most over rated around. You are better off considering a horse that finished in the first 4 last start regardless of lengths from the winner.

Ruling out apprentices means missing a lot of good value bets.

Barrier positions are not overly important in the overall scheme of race results. People will point out that numbers 1 - 5 have the highest strike rate but there are always horses in barriers 1 - 5. There are not always horses in barrier 10+ because field sizes determine this stat.

If you want to bet 50 units, try 15 x 35 maybe. Even 20 x 30.

Have a look at runners listed in the newspaper market between and including $3.50 & $11.00.

Have a play around with your method and try and refine it here and there.

Good luck

Privateer

Carnegie Express 18th November 2005 01:57 PM

Thanks for the advice. I have taken some on board an amended my original rules as I was of the same belief yet wanted to let it play for a while. Comments:

Perhaps only bet on Metro events?

Yes, great idea and one that I have adopted.

The "within 4 lengths" theory is one of the most over rated around. You are better off considering a horse that finished in the first 4 last start regardless of lengths from the winner.

Perhaps, but it also a nice filter so will choose to keep it.

Ruling out apprentices means missing a lot of good value bets.

Very true but two fold, one it is a good filter and secondly an apprentice is an apprentice. I would much rather $50 on Beadman than Pearson. Experience is worth it's weight. A fortnight ago I took a risk and backed the John Hawkes trained Barricades. The jockey went hammer and tong on the thing and it was a spent force halfway down the straight. I am not looking for value but consistency.

Barrier positions are not overly important in the overall scheme of race results. People will point out that numbers 1 - 5 have the highest strike rate but there are always horses in barriers 1 - 5. There are not always horses in barrier 10+ because field sizes determine this stat.

Again, this is true but works as a great filter. This is not a concrete rule though. In an eight horse field I would have no problems taking a horse that had drawn barrier 8. In a sixteen horse field I would rule out a horse drawing barrier 10. As said above, I mainly looking for consistency rather than value. Granted I may find a $4.00 place horse but I may not.

If you want to bet 50 units, try 15 x 35 maybe. Even 20 x 30.

This was an original plan that I was going to try but then I guess I got greedy and went evens each way. Last week I changed it to $15 a win and $35 and lo and behold I backed Love and Money in Brisbane for my first win. That is the way it goes though. Had I originally started this way I would probably be doing better.
Have a look at runners listed in the newspaper market between and including $3.50 & $11.00.

I have changed to horses over $2.50 as I found I had missed a few that won at odds of between $2.50 and $3.50

I am not going to post here any more but will pop in and share my results if I am going OK. For those that post on the msn forum the link is http://groups.msn.com/TheNewHorseRa...547415916044933

Thanks for the advice.



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