Not bad Manikato,
You say to all Sunline supporters to get their excuses ready for the spring even before the big races start, yet you are making excuses as to why Northerly was defeated 3 times last season. Are you serious?, Northerly got done by the better horses on the day, that's right on the day, not over a career. Don't worry, there is always next season, but then again the Mighty Mare also has next season. :grin:

P.s I noticed you wrote that when Corporate Bruce beat Northerly he was only 50% fit, On that occasion he was 2nd up, yet on his only other two second up runs, he produced 2 victories (and that is not including a 28 day break he had, first start after that he came 2nd at Ascot, the 2nd race from that break he won the Carlyon Cup, that would make it 3 wins, but we will call that a freshen up) Also you mentioned that he has beaten Old Comrade 3 times, i can only find twice, the G2 St George Stakes and the G1 Railway, and OC has beaten him in the G1 Railway and the G1 Australian Cup. Can you let me know the other one please? I can't find it anywhere.


[ This Message was edited by: storm on 2002-08-01 12:43 ]

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I do realise I was making excuses for Northerly but they were real excuses not pretend ones as was the case with Sunline.

* Northerly was being aimed at the Cox Plate much later on so the 2nd up defeat had little meaning. Regardless Corp Bruce is a good horse anyway.

* The defeat after the Cox Plate had no meaning as Northerly had 7.5kgs more and was tired. Any other trainer would have spelled the horse.

* The defeat in the Australian Cup was fair and square. OC ran pretty damn quick that day and is a very good horse on his day.

So really you have 1 defeat by OC that means anything. The time was 2 seconds quicker than Sunline has ever run. Put her in that race and she gets beaten.

As for Sunline's defeats, prior to the race BOTH the trainer and jockey said she was in good shape.

* First defeat over 1600m at MV - how can you find excuses for that one? Sunline is more suited to both MV and 1600m than Northerly and she still lost. Add to that Northerly had more weight.

* Second defeat in Cox Plate. Norterly again carried more weight and won. No excuses here.

PS: I'm not from Perth.

[ This Message was edited by: quapi on 2002-08-01 18:27 ]

You wrote " the defeat after the Cox Plate meant nothing as he was tired"
He had a 27 day freshen up, what was he doing, running marathons?

Also from you "First defeat over 1600m at the Valley, how can you find excuses for that one?" If you care to go over my previous posts you will not find one excuse about Sunline's losses, i do not want to make any, nor do i need to make any. Who are these people you are reffering to, making these excuses? I believe you are the only one. Anyway, why would i want to make any when i get so much amusement out of reading yours, and one more thing, you were wrong when you said Sunline has'nt beaten Northerly, she beat him the other night for horse of the year honours remember, the third year in a row she has won it, but you already knew that, did'nt you, and was'nt there something about a hall of fame?

[ This Message was edited by: storm on 2002-08-01 14:23 ]

Yes, she can't beat him on the track so she has to rely on awards off the track.

Horse of the year means about as much as being ranked no 1 in the world.

Any tennis player would rather win Wimbleton and be ranked lower, than lose Wimbleton and be ranked no 1 based on wins against plodders.

If your arguments/excuses were at least half as good as your namesake, i would find you credible, but unfortunately, they are not.

[ This Message was edited by: Moderator 2 on 2002-08-01 18:24 ]

Guy please keep things pleasant. Personal attacks achieve nothing. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but aggressive posts only lower the mood of the forum.

Cheers.

Sorry,i was just about done with that anyway.

The score is 2:0
I don't need to say anything else.
Sunline had no excuses.
If Marion Jones is faster than Maurice Greene then I'll agree with you. Until then, not likely.