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Top Rank 18th April 2006 06:44 PM

Hi Marcus25,

No problem with the wet blanket,but you would be surprised that your assertion is not entirely correct at all.
You will find that it will find most of the best chances in the race.

It was just an easy assist for Mad.

Good Punting.

crash 19th April 2006 04:18 AM

Why would anyone use the Sportsman to calculate a sub-standard rating figure [comparatively speaking] when the Sportsman's rating are actually quite good all by themselves?. Also there are good ratings in the Wizard and the Whitway ratings in the Winning post aren't bad either.

Seems like after reading some of the posts here, a ratings system is not the goal, but a mechanical method of selecting winners [a system]. There are other skills and judgments involved besides ratings in making a profit, that cannot be given a rating figure. I think we a searching for a shovel here, not a spade. Mad wasn't looking for a shovel.

The original question was basically, 'I'm looking for simple way to find ratings'. Look at any of the racing papers which have professionally done ratings already there for you or even use the odds in the Newspaper. I can't think of anything simpler [?].

crash 19th April 2006 05:25 AM

I think we should all take a step back here and look at the 'view' gentleman.


Mad Gambler is often starting new threads and always the questions are newbie type questions and for some strange reason he never seems to respond in any of the threads he kicks off. I ask you gentleman, why would a punter here who is 3rd from the top in a current very difficult tipping comp, involving many punters here, be asking newbie questions ?

You wouldn't be a moderator here would you mad, creating debate with simple questions to keep the forum pages ticking along ? Mad's more recent thread effort in the poker pages promoting various sites seem a bit sus too:-)
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Pretty good going for a punter who can't figure out simple ratings :-) LOL LOL

Overall top 3 placings in Sportz's RACE OF THE DAY COMP

877.5 . wesmip1
827.5 . mad
800.0 . Duritz


lol , lol

Merriguy 19th April 2006 07:27 AM

Not just a pretty face are you Crash? Has had me wondering too!!

lomaca 19th April 2006 07:46 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by crash
Mad Gambler is often starting new threads and always the questions are newbie type questions and for some strange reason he never seems to respond in any of the threads he kicks off.

Just a stab in the dark!
maybe "mad" <> "Mad Gambler"?
As to "never respond"? see the way he asked for Excel help before!

marcus25 19th April 2006 08:04 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Top Rank
Hi Marcus25,

you would be surprised that your assertion is not entirely correct at all.
You will find that it will find most of the best chances in the race.

Thank's Top Rank, you might be right, it's just that every time I add these criteria to my ratings, I wind up with the hot favs. like everyone else.
(I skew my selection process so as to avoid the favs.)
Probably used on their own it is a different matter.
Thank you.

baco60 19th April 2006 09:10 PM

Yes
 
Finally someone woke up to his tricks.
Good on you Crash.

partypooper 19th April 2006 09:59 PM

Gee, my sheltered life is really starting to get embarrassing!!! HUH?

crash 20th April 2006 10:46 AM

10 points for effort and 'dash' Mad. Who knows though, perhaps we are just getting paranoid and misaligning the fellow. Reds under the bed anyone?

Chrome Prince 20th April 2006 11:56 AM

A simple system...

Take the Techform or Unitab ratings.

Add 1 point for any horse which finished in the placings last start

Deduct 1 point for any horse which finished unplaced last start.

Deduct 1 point for any horse first up

Add one point for any horse backing up within 7 days

No alteration for any horse starting between 8 and 44 days.

Now, add up the difference in points like this....

(TAB) (NEW RATING) (POINTS)
1 101 20
2 98 17
3 95 14
4 92 11
5 92 11
6 90 9
7 87 6
8 85 4
9 81 1
10 81 1

So you are adding up the number difference between the bottom rating, but a minimum of 1.

So now you have prices and percentages:

(TAB) (POINTS) (PERCENTAGE) (PRICE)
1 20 21.28% $4.70
2 17 18.08% $5.53
3 14 14.89% $6.71
4 11 11.70% $8.55
5 11 11.70% $8.55
6 9 9.57% $10.45
7 6 6.38% $15.67
8 4 4.25% $23.53
9 1 1.06% $94.34
10 1 1.06% $94.34


Either back any horse initially rated over 100 points after the rules are applied and WIN!!!

Or back the overlays and WIN!!!

A gift, can't get much easier than this - enjoy :D

Only proviso is don't bet maidens or first starters, hurdles, steeples, or fields where more than two horses are first up.

Anyone savvy with excel would be able to check this out as fact over a long period of time. You won't win every day or even every week, but you will win in the end.


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