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AngryPixie 6th March 2007 12:52 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome Prince
AP,

Have you considered this...

Just putting a price cutoff of $11.00 means you can be laying up to $11.00 on a $4.00 shot. You have to lose in that scenario.
What you need to achieve is unders, if not always, most of the time.

If I were to use the Daily Donkey, I would look up the Racing Post prepost and rule out anything over $11.00 prepost.

Then deduct 20% off the prepost price.

Don't worry about all the one's you miss out on or don't get matched on, the one's that do will more than compensate.

Having said that, I would concentrate on first or second favourites, because it's very hard to get matched under the odds on horses @ 10/1, but it does happen.
Chrome

Your absolutely right here, and this is of course how I approach my AUS lays and I'm doing really nicely there.

I can see the attraction of trading on the UK markets now although I don't think I'd be too comfortable letting a bot pull the trigger for me when the big money is down, and I'm getting a bit long in the tooth (and I've a day job) to be staying up till the wee hours.

The Donkey is really just an amusement for me and it takes the drudgery out of churning the lays on the Aussie markets. I've really not put too much effort into a strategy and to come out $46 down by making it up as I go along is probably not too bad.

Merriguy if your listening have a fiddle with different pricing scenario's on the Racing-Index site. If your prepared to be pretty selective ie. 2/1 or less you you can make the figures look a little better.

AngryPixie 6th March 2007 11:48 PM

March 6th 2007
 
I know, I know, but the intellectual challenge has got the best of me. To this end I've put in some effort (relatively speaking anyway) and have come up with a very selective, but hopefully profitable method of getting the most out of the Donkey.

I'll divide the selections into "Best" and "Others". The "Others" category will give you more action but you'll lose a few more too.

These are LAYS ok. Don't BACK them.


Best
Time Name [Racecourse]
13:30 Neptune Joly [Newcastle]
13:30 Flake [Newcastle]
14:00 Green Ideal [Newcastle]
14:30 Alfabet Souk [Newcastle]
15:30 Crackadee [Newcastle]

Others
Time Name [Racecourse]
13:00 Wolds Way [Newcastle]
14:30 In Dream's [Newcastle]
15:00 Minster Abbi [Newcastle]
16:00 Oshkosh [Newcastle]


You could go one step further and use Chromes suggestion of laying to prices. You can work those out though ;)

Have a good one

Chrome Prince 7th March 2007 12:33 AM

Here's a golden suggestion ;)

Take the Racing Post prepost market.

Lay any horse which is 20% or greater less than the prepost price after allowing reduction for any scratchings.
(You can set this up in some programs).

AngryPixie 7th March 2007 10:24 PM

Results March 6th
 
Ok. So that didn't go as badly as it could have. By being selective we've managed to finish only 0.5 units down on what was a shocking day for the Daily Donkey tips.

Let's aim to return a better POT than we would if we'd layed every one of the Donkeys. I'll be using the SP's from the Daily Donkey's published results. I'm not too fussed about the strike rate. The aim here is quality over quantity.

Best
Time Name [Racecourse]
13:30 Neptune Joly [Newcastle] ... LOST +1.00
13:30 Flake [Newcastle] ... WON -4.50
14:00 Green Ideal [Newcastle] ... LOST +1.00
14:30 Alfabet Souk [Newcastle] ... LOST +1.00
15:30 Crackadee [Newcastle] ... LOST +1.00

Best Results March 6th 2007 - March 6th 2007

Pixie Units Out: 5.00
Pixie Units In: -0.50
Pixie POT: -10.00%

Donkey Units Out: 28.00
Donkey Units In: -8.98
Donkey POT: -32.07%


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I'm not going to be counting the "Others" category but will continue to provide it for a few more days - more to convince myself to leave those behind than for any other reason.

Others
Time Name [Racecourse]
13:00 Wolds Way [Newcastle] ... LOST +1.00
14:30 In Dream's [Newcastle] ... WON -4.00
15:00 Minster Abbi [Newcastle] ... LOST +1.00
16:00 Oshkosh [Newcastle]
... LOST +1.00

Tonights lays to follow.

AngryPixie 7th March 2007 11:27 PM

March 7th
 
Ok. Times are listed in (GMT+11.00) tonight. :o

Best
Time Name [Racecourse]
02:10 Court Alliance [Fontwell]
02:55 Ask Bobby [Catterick]
03:15 Travelling Light [Fontwell]
03:15 Herecomestanley [Fontwell]
03:25 Truly Fruitful [Catterick]
03:45 Ouragan Lagrange [Fontwell]

Others
Time Name [Racecourse]
01:40 Alfadora [Fontwell]
02:25 Cash Man [Catterick]
02:45 Pardini [Fontwell]
03:25 Bright Sparky [Catterick]
03:55 Trading Trouble [Catterick]

AngryPixie 8th March 2007 01:29 AM

BTW
 
Any selection that has a Daily Donkey published SP of more than 11.00 will be ignored. That's getting a little long.

eg. Yesterday Alfabet Souk had a published SP of 11.00. Anything more than that and it wouldn't have been included in our results. I'll also not include it in the Daily Donkey's results.

AngryPixie 8th March 2007 08:54 AM

Results March 7th
 
Not a bad night. The "Others" category is shaping as bets not lays. Remember it's the "Best" category that we're concentrating on.

Best
Time Name [Racecourse]
02:10 Court Alliance [Fontwell] ... LOST +1.00
02:55 Ask Bobby [Catterick] ... LOST +1.00
03:15 Travelling Light [Fontwell] ... TOO LONG NO LAY
03:15 Herecomestanley [Fontwell] ... LOST +1.00
03:25 Truly Fruitful [Catterick] ... LOST +1.00
03:45 Ouragan Lagrange [Fontwell] ... LOST +1.00

Best Results March 6th 2007 - March 7th 2007

Pixie Units Out: 10.00
Pixie Units In: +4.50
Pixie POT: +45.00%

Donkey Units Out: 63.00
Donkey Units In: +1.97
Donkey POT: +3.12


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Others
Time Name [Racecourse]
01:40 Alfadora [Fontwell] ... WON -4.00
02:25 Cash Man [Catterick] ... LOST +1.00
02:45 Pardini [Fontwell] ... LOST +1.00
03:25 Bright Sparky [Catterick] ... WON -4.00
03:55 Trading Trouble [Catterick] ... WON -2.50

salty 8th March 2007 09:33 AM

Congratulations on an excellent night. Surely the filters you are using consist of more than the reduction factor. I don't think the total donkey selections on the site would have made a profit at all. Unable to access results sheet at the moment.

AngryPixie 8th March 2007 09:48 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by salty
Congratulations on an excellent night. Surely the filters you are using consist of more than the reduction factor. I don't think the total donkey selections on the site would have made a profit at all. Unable to access results sheet at the moment.


Thanks Salty hope your getting some use out of the selections. It's easy when somebody else does most of the work for you. ;)

Your right the Betfair Reduction figures aren't in play now. Look back to post #19 in this thread and you'll see I'm using a different cunning plan.

Bit early for me to put any serious money on yet.

AngryPixie 8th March 2007 01:11 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by AngryPixie
It's easy when somebody else does most of the work for you. ;)


That didn't read right. What I mean is that the underlying selections need to be sound to begin with. All I'm doing is tweaking somebody elses work.


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