A weak heart never won a fair maiden. So I shall.
Yes I see the reason for those horses now. Cheers

Just a thought or two on laying (I know Chrome, I know --- and pretty much agree with what you have said often!!!). There is an angle, I think, to be found if the TAB sites --- radio tab, the guest tipster, and the late mail cannot agree for the most part. A high percentage of such races are fodder for the layer, I think (laying the favourite, that is).

For example, yesterday at Seymour Race 5 the tips were:

9-2-3-6 *9-8-4-6 5

The fav was 3. It ran nowhere :rolleyes!

Have a look at this sometime.


Someone recently decried the number of ideas based on the QldTAB. I think it is simply the easiest site on which to work in trying out new systems. I have never seen any indication that it is better than other information; but it is all there on the one page!

Horrible, horrible day.
Whatever I laid..............won.

Worked 19 races and laid 8 winners. It went downhill from SR5 onwards where I proceeded to lay 7 winners from 10 races.
Complete opposite of last week, today I was (relatively speaking) saved by the first horse @ 5-8, which showed a small profit.

Total loss $110.
New bank $4963.

It happens...
 

Put it down to the forum hoodoo. There's always next week :)

proving oneself on these forums seems to be one very hard call

i do quite nicely thankyou very much making my final selections within the last 2 minutes of betting, but making those selections on race morning relying on pre post markets etc just dont work

Problem is that to prove yourself you would have to post for a couple of years just about, I mean I'm into place betting and just looking at some recent results there was a run of 19 hits, on the same page there is a run of 4 outs 1 hit 3 outs 2 hits 3 outs, i.e. only 3 places out of 13 bets. So depending on when you decided to "prove" yourself you could look very silly or very clever.
Truth is this particular plan hovers at around 70% hits (places that is) over a long period. if only we knew which 70% eh?

Mark stick with it, don't bail.
It's times like this where everything seems to go against you that tests mettle.
They could have just as easily ALL lost or it could have been an exact duplicate of expectation.
Given that there have now been more than 4.5 billion transactions on Betfair, you can't get it right everyday.
Last night I laid seven short favourites, and six of them won.
I know I'm one step closer to six of them losing, but quite prepared for another six to win.

Losers for 16/2/08.

MR1 1,8,9,11
MR2 1,5,7,8,9,10,11,13
MR3 1,5,9
MR6 4
MR7 1
MR8 2,5
MR9 8,9,12,14

SR2 7
SR6 3,4,5,6,9
SR7 5,7,10
SR8 1,2,4,5,7,8,11,12
SR9 3,4,8,11

BR2 1,7,9,10,11,12,14
BR3 2,3,6,8,9,10,11
BR4 3,6,8,11,12,13,14,16
BR5 2,10,11
BR6 4,10
BR7 2,3,4,8,10,12,18
BR8 1,16

Lay at your own risk, I had a very late night, something I don't usually do on a Friday. All care, no responsibility and all that.
BR8 1 is my own lay.
Plus the first @5-8.

The forum curse has struck. I've been using this many months now and the returns have been reasonable..........until it's posted on here.

A disappointing day yesterday with a miniscule profit of $6 for the effort.

I worked 19 races and laid 7 winners. The undoing came late in the day with 3 in a row getting up (M8, S8, B7) and a $40 profit suddenly became a $17 loss.

New bank $4969

As there is no interest in this it will be shelved, although I will still be working it.

Sorry about that, and I mean it. This is one of the reasons I keep away from laying, (apart from the fact I know little about it) but at least with backing your return is, your bet multiplied by the odds, with laying you only get the other punters stake!

If out of 19, you get 7 winners you would be doing a lot better than most of us, by backing your selections!
Just a thought.
I only average about 18% for my first selection and still making good profits.
Good luck