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lomaca 5th July 2009 06:51 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by crash
I agree Stix, especially about Sydney and over 2kg rise in weight! Also, discipline can't be taught.
I don't know Stix, Crash. in my opinion the "difference" in weights in the race between horses is far more important than the actual individual weights carried.

did a quick run on the fav, carrying the same weight, down in weight or up by more than 2k

Same S/R 31.58% LOT 10.8
Less w S/R 32.57% LOT 10.94
Up by more than 2k S/R 33.30% LOT 11.94

Stix 5th July 2009 07:16 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by lomaca
I don't know Stix, Crash. in my opinion the "difference" in weights in the race between horses is far more important than the actual individual weights carried.

did a quick run on the fav, carrying the same weight, down in weight or up by more than 2k

Same S/R 31.58% LOT 10.8
Less w S/R 32.57% LOT 10.94
Up by more than 2k S/R 33.30% LOT 11.94
I try not to back fav's. The average div last year for me was $5.77, this year it's $6.00, but havimg said that I don't take notice of pre-post odds and I don't bet at the jump. I hope for a reasonable strike rate and a healthy av divy.

lomaca 5th July 2009 07:23 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stix
I try not to back fav's. .
neither do I , but I had this query set up before for someone else, so I ran it.
Will run it for all winners, although I'm not inclined to follow mechanical "systems" or any system for that matter.

here it is

weight same winners S/R 10.37% LOT 32.62%
weight less winners S/R 9.49% LOT 32.07%
weight up +2Kg winners S/R 13.31% LOT 29.19%

Should make you think!

Good luck

Stix 6th July 2009 10:11 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by lomaca

Should make you think!

Good luck
Thanks Lomaca

I've over thought it already....... Have spend days on weights analysis with my systems.

Another one for me is that I also don't give a toss about the jockey either....

partypooper 10th July 2009 11:57 PM

Yeah, well you have to remember that the "Bookie" basically bets (gambles) on every horse in the race 24x7 but in reverse, i.e 80% or so.

Just like most of us having a punt of about $500 per year that our house wont be wiped off the face of the earth, or that it won't be burgled (for another $500)

Truth is that EVEN if it was burgled the chances are that the claim would be less than $1000, (i.e.) carry off TV and Video etc) but we still go on having that bet............ just in case, so we are taking 2-1, for a 5 or 6-1 chance??? yes?

That's why there are Bookies and insurance companies, (basically ,the same thing)

And also that's why my username is "Partypooper" hahhaahah!

Good luck guys!

Percentum 11th July 2009 10:41 AM

Crash, I've never come up with a place system that makes a decent long term profit. I think back in the days when systems were based on tipsters polls etc I came up with one that made about 5% profit, maybe 10. It had all sorts of restrictions like fields of 10 and less and was astonishinly boring as well as of questionable merit (I think I did a workout for 2 years). Maybe something like this might work now with the possibility of getting best tote. I just found place betting tedious. Anyway, good luck.
Xanadu, at least your phone friend at Betezy didn't say ''cool''.


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