michaelg,

Of course you are going to have flucuations in the trifecta div comparing it to the prices of the win pool. But if you are only using value selections as "standouts" in your exoctic bets, then you will win long-term no matter the price. But then again if you are using the wrong combination formula it won't work either.

If you don't want to deal with low divs, then don't bet in the races where your value selection is still the short price fav. Why take it out altogether and still bet if it is your top rater and value? There is no logic to that.

Don Scott in his later years bet his overlays in trifectas, but unfortunately he lost.

If he had a trifecta calculator similar to mine he would most likely have discovered that much too often the fave was good value in Win betting but of little value in Trifectas.

According to my calculator this applied to all faves, but more so with the shorter ones.

Maybe people generally feel uncomfortable omitting the fave from trifectas. I would not be surprised if this also applied to F. Fours.

Ah Michaelg,
I can but try eh.The prices were good but alas.
Cheers
darky

I'm wondering if there is a point to your posts other than ridiculing the punters on this forum in general and darky in particular?

If I'm wrong I apologise, sorry!

Lighthuman2010,

I don't rate horses but even if I did, I would automatically remove the fave from winning and running second in Trifectas even if it was "overs".

It is not common sense to assume that because a horse is value in Win betting that it also is automatically value in Trifecta betting, because with the fave more often than not it turns out to be poor value.

As I previously said, if Don Scott had my calculator he would have sooner or later realised this.

I dont think I have been explaining myself very clearly because you say "if you think removing your top rated value selection from your exotics..." I am not recommending removing the top rated value selection - what I am recommending is removing the favourite.

lomaca,

I accept your apology, yes you are wrong.

Have a read of my posts. You will find nothing but sound logical advice that will help you succeed. Then compare my posts to the other person you are talking about and look at the difference.

But thanks for asking. Much better to do it this way rather than complaining to admin. Easier to clear the air when we all communicate like adults.

But only just a few lines above you said:


But if the top rated value selection is the fav, will you remove it?

According to what you have said above, yes you will. And that makes no logical sense at all.

Yes, I will remove the fave.

Yes, it makes no logical sense. But when my calculator proves over hundreds (maybe thousands) of races that faves are continually very poor value in Trifectas, then to remove them from running first and second does make logical sense.

Lighthuman2010 your suspension has been increased to one month following moderation of another post critical of this Forum. We suggest you might like to find a Forum where the members meet the punting standards you require.

Whats your thoughts on R7 At Ballina.

Cheers,
darky