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El Gordo 24th January 2003 12:01 AM

Looks like Ovation should have stuck to the class 2 race, Paddy.

Anyway let's have a look at Ascot for Saturday, hopefully I can make up for the dismal effort at Pinjarra yesterday.

R1: Air Pocket looks the best of the raced brigade, but like last week won't be surprised if the winner comes from one of the first starters.

R2: Also a number of first starters in this race, so watch for any betting moves. Of the raced brigade like Moon Talk (a lot), from Conspirator & Precious Lady.

R3: Doesn't look to be much pace in this race apart fron duel acceptor - Rickitave, which could be hard to beat, if left alone in front. But Time Is Money is my top fancy, with Lulugui and Hello Angel chances at odds.

R4: Speed to burn in this race, so going for some run-on horses. She's A Rose top pick from Dedicated Miss & Midas Rose.

R5: Looks to be not a lot of speed in this race which could play into the hands of the topweight - Secret Remedy, which also qualifies for angel416's topweight system. Fireband & Kame's Hope big dangers, with a watch also on the 3YO - Twin City Girl.

R6: Going for the topweight in this race - Main Stage - should have too much class for the rest. Dangers - Coordinate, Country Born & National Silk.

R7: Tons of speed in this race, so again going for the run-on horses. Zabaset to win, main danges Family Dreams & Tip The Till. Others a chance at odds include Trillemo & Showdown Seth. An interesting runner is Jarnot. Unbeaten in all seven starts at Broome!


R8: This race should be run at a good clip. Expect Beyond Dispute to be running on well at the end. Dangers Mixed Lad & Tribulations. The topweight, Twin Power qualifies for angel416's topweight system. Another interesting runner is Nothing But Gold, winning two of three starts in WA since arriving from SA.

Paddy 24th January 2003 01:50 PM

Some interesting selections there El Gordo - good luck for Saturday.

Must admit still puzzled at connections decision to run Ovation out of class (class 4) rather than the class 2 race :eek:

Only an additional $400 winners purse for the class 4. Also was only to carry 1.5kg more (over limit) in the class 2. Perhaps they thought Ovation better suited over the 1400m (versus the 1200m)

Paddy 24th January 2003 02:49 PM

I see that Tapdog is havin another go in the city at Ascot tomorrow (race 8 ). Drawn wide, with the services of Stephen Miller again.

Bit surprising as Miller copt a bit of the blame for the gelding's last city failure.

See he was a well beaten odds-on favourite at his latest start at Geraldton. Still they persist. Watching with interest tomorrow.

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[ This Message was edited by: Paddy on 2003-01-24 14:51 ]

red 25th January 2003 07:00 AM

Hi all and Paddy you seem a positive chappy, best of luck to you.
Will be a good day at the tennis for the Williams nest, $1.1 million to one sister, $563,000 to the other(after yesterday's doubles' win and another $419,000)
Not a lot of betting today.
R3 I wouldn't bet Rickitave with monopoly money. Should lead. Maybe Lulugui can improve to run a place but I'll stay out of this one.
R4 if my stats are right the last 93 starts at 1600m bar 7 has saluted only once, so good luck to Blessedly. Like most I have Metal Maiden on top but not by much so again light/no betting.
R5 Listed 40k race, Island Light with blinkers off could still lead, or Secret Remedy to kick up and lead. Modem will box seat. Did Whiting select Fireband over Modem? They've really thrown Twin City Girl in the deep end.
R6 Main Stage will be fav. Alana Sansom stuck with Coordinate in preference to Main Stage? Don't like Coordinate, up against it today. National Silk flopped this dist. last prep but was 3yo Guineas and set to improve. Czariffic promised a lot early in career, dist. suits.
R7 interesting race, need Sangroper's help with Jarnot. Hard to put a figure on him. Look out for Western Tycoon. Back 100m, will race back, blinkers off, jockey change, set suicidal pace in front last week. Family Dreams will be fav. and set to enjoy good run again. Cougar Roar meets Family Dreams 4.5kg better for 2.8len defeat and will get a good run on fence but those last 50m......
R8 tough. Tribulations shocking draw but is fast early and may even sit outside lead. Mixed Lad been consistent and could mow these down, Twin Power been racing tougher class and will race forward.
Top day to all.

red 26th January 2003 01:37 AM

A brief review of yesterday’s action at Ascot. Helps to sometimes write out your thoughts for your notes.
I had a losing day saved only by betting fairly light.
R2 The surprise probably the very slow time. Moon Talk just got there to beat a moderate performer. 2 from 2 for her, just a bit of reservation for next time. Conspirator blew in the betting from the start and raced as such.
R3 Time is Money was a maiden for 10 runs now has won 2 in a row in town. A bunched finished.
R4 The idea was to pick the right swooper(s) pre-race. Rickitave and Metal Maiden went quick early. Again, 2.25len covered the first 8 runners.
R5 Senate Lease beat Recall A Storm previous start who didn’t hold up the form in R3(though slow away). Some big flops, have to wait for stewards on Fireband which they backed from 15/4->5/2. You’d love to own Kames Hope. Missed a place only once in 12 starts for about $113,000 prizemoney.
R6 Couldn’t believe the price of Main Stage. Didn’t it do well leading into the race or had it had enough this prep? It was 7s at one point in betting. Paradiddle might be one of those horses, and he’s only won 2 from 31. 2 flops over 1800m now for National Silk, this was a shocker.
R7 Jarnot was backed 9/2->7/2 late and ran well so maybe good Broome form can hold up in town. Western Tycoon ran very well for new riding tactics. This win by Family Dreams even better than previous start. Now won 5 from 9. Cougar Roar just goes too hard in races beyond 1000m and in fact all his 7 wins are at 1000m.
R8 Races like this bring you back to earth. I just cannot find anything at all in the winner’s(which will remain nameless) form that could win this. A maiden win at Pinjarra in ok time 2 sts ago then last start beaten by Nikita Blue in a C1 at Pinjarra who did nothing in town 2 weeks ago. A possible similiarity is both wins off a 20+ day break. The time was good and came from bar14. I had it at 100/1 and unders. A hesitant ride on Tribulations still ran very well. Tapdog(top 4th) would like to ask his trainer ‘keep me at a similar distance pretty please’.
Till next time.

BettyBoop 26th January 2003 12:47 PM

Nice one El Gordo, 6 of the 8 winners at Ascot yesterday. Done well!

El Gordo 26th January 2003 03:29 PM

Thanks a lot BettyBoop. Let's see if lady luck is still with us.

Bunbury today -

R5: Paris Bank, Pagan King, Old Boomer & Karuba Lass.

R6: Metal As Anything, Fred Who, Civil List & Feel The Pulse.

R7: He's True Blue, Bluetello, Bon Royale & Salveson.

R8: Lady Didalot, King Lomond, Little Bill & Symbol Sam.



Sandgroper 26th January 2003 08:41 PM

Pretty good tipping on Saturday El Gordo, all but the two long-shots. Both long-shots were bets at the odds offered.

Had Senate Lease rated 1.5len behind my top rated (Kame's Hope) in the 5th, following his recent return to form at Mount Barker, where he had been twice placed in good company carrying 57kgs, most recent of which beaten a nose.

Had Instantaneous rated 2len behind my top rated (Beyond Dispute) in the 8th. This rating was based on OK runs in the city as a 3YO and good recent provincial form. I think the bad barrier may have been a blessing, as he is often ridden up on the pace. With the wide draw the jockey settled him back in the field and he flooded home. I thought a very impressive run, and if not a one-off performance, could go on with it & win a couple more at good odds.


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[ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2003-01-26 20:43 ]

red 27th January 2003 04:50 AM

Sandgroper,
Would you know if Terry Rhodes is around the tracks these days or still having time off?
He was a master of sticking to his rated prices(100% market) and refusing to bet any underlay. His results spoke for themselves.
Thanks,
red.

Paddy 27th January 2003 06:23 AM

Thanks red, Sandgroper & El Gordo for your contributions to this thread, hopefully others too find the information / tips posted of some benefit. Tapdog certainly did improve on his last city effort, nice run by Jarnot & agree with you red – looked to be a huge improvement by Instantaneous, the barrier would have put me off for starters. But do agree with Sandgroper, in the wash-up - was a pretty impressive win.


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