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norisk 21st December 2011 04:51 PM

good ol' Richy, rarely lets me down:)

Bhagwan 21st December 2011 07:30 PM

Using UniTAB tipsters today Wed 21 Dec

There were 6 Start Bets
* on top of their first selection

Only 1 won at 1.60
The rest fell over

Their prices were 1.60 - 3.00 - 3.20 - 8.50 - 3.50 - 2.70

Thats a win SR of 16.6%
These are great for Laying.
Who needs to buy expensive Lay tipping services.

Laying all at level stakes.
Got back 5.00
Paid out .60
Profit 4.40
88% POT for the day.

If laying these at level stakes.
Its a strong idea to halve ones bet on any greater that $5.50

Bhagwan 21st December 2011 07:41 PM

Hi UB
You may wish to double check those figures.

Unless I did something different.

I figured
14 sel= O/L 14.00
Ret divs 9.43 (including stake)
Lay profit +4.57
Less 5% Com .22
Total $4.34
POT 31%

Chrome Prince 21st December 2011 11:03 PM

Sandown R3 Wookah Lost
Sandown R5 Valedictorian Lost
Sandown R6 Straveen Lost
Sandown R6 Louisville Dancer Lost
(Query over Del Palio in R5, as more than one has it as his best bet.
Not including it). It won @ $6.37, so my methodology turned out to be correct today

Eagle Farm R6 Pear Tart $1.68
Eagle Farm R7 Sons Of God Lost

Wyong R5 Lucy Louise Lost
Wyong R7 Urgent Bells Lost

Gawler R7 Lottalago Lost

Trots:
Mildura R2 Caulonia Babe $1.23
Kilmore R8 Just Wal Lost

Another cracking day.
Outlay $11.00
Return $2.91
Loss Backing -$8.09
73.50% LOT

norisk 22nd December 2011 07:19 AM

Methinks the grail has been unearthed;)

UselessBettor 22nd December 2011 09:49 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bhagwan
Hi UB
You may wish to double check those figures.

Unless I did something different.

I figured
14 sel= O/L 14.00
Ret divs 9.43 (including stake)
Lay profit +4.57
Less 5% Com .22
Total $4.34
POT 31%

You are right I forgot to add the 3 winners back in. the calc should have been

((14-3)*0.95)+3-9.43 = $4.02

You need to take into commission only on the winning bets so commisson is actually 55c not 22c.


Just as an update I have checked yesterdays results and overall now the system has had 90 selections for 29 winners (32%) and a payout of 76.74 meaning a profit of $10.21 units after 5% commission. In the trial so far there have been 15 tipsters with 4 of them tipping more then 1 meeting.

If you removed the top tipsters from the results (who has tipped in 6 meetings) the results are 67 selections for 19 winners (28%) and a profit of $15.60 units after 5% commission.

Chrome Prince 22nd December 2011 10:51 AM

Toowoomba R4 Funhouse
Toowoomba R6 Outback Legend
Wyong R4 Hidden Warrior
Wyong R5 Bella Rossi
Wyong R6 My Man Of War
Seymour R1 Just Hustled
Seymour R3 Harry's Magic
Seymour R4 Hex
Seymour R5 Tiger Stripe (no bet multiple tipsters)
Mt Gambier R5 Mr Farinelli

Charlton R7 Mathias
Cranbourne R2 Renaissance Franco

Chrome Prince 22nd December 2011 11:02 AM

I don't think the lack of performance comes from people lumping on, the strike rate is also very low.
You'd be better off backing blindfolded yourself.
If we take out the multiple picks, it looks much worse for them.
One would think that they have access to ratings, and as journos other info we don't have.
Could it be that they are really that bad?

I don't think so!

Chrome Prince 22nd December 2011 05:11 PM

Well it's been another cracker of a day if the last two don't salute.
Renaissance Franco is 1.00 on the tote right now, and I would have picked it to win, but not at those odds.
Highlight of the day was Mathias getting rolled @ $1.43

I'll post a full workout from the start, after Cranny R2.

I wish my brother George were here :D

Stix 22nd December 2011 05:59 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome Prince
Toowoomba R4 Funhouse
Toowoomba R6 Outback Legend
Wyong R4 Hidden Warrior
Wyong R5 Bella Rossi
Wyong R6 My Man Of War
Seymour R1 Just Hustled
Seymour R3 Harry's Magic
Seymour R4 Hex
Seymour R5 Tiger Stripe (no bet multiple tipsters)
Mt Gambier R5 Mr Farinelli

Charlton R7 Mathias
Cranbourne R2 Renaissance Franco
Wish I saw this earlier...would of saved some cassssshhhhhhhh :D


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