Hi Moeee,

No need to get discouraged, I thought your post above was excellent, constructive criticism plus an idea that may/may not work for other forumites to test.

This is what the forum is about on my view, throwing an idea into the atmosphere and generating debate/ideas.

The Schmile

IMHO I think 99.9% of Bhagwans "systems" are great for those of us looking for something that "might" work but we haven't thought about.

I don't think at any stage that Bhagwan says this system or that system WILL make you plenty of money. Most of the time they don't tend to work out but that is something that you have to give a dry run or possibly back check yourself (do your own research). They all can't work otherwise we would ALL be rich. :)

It is not like some posters here who give out a system, tell us that a $60 horse has won but then doesn't tell us how many losing bets they had (or would of had) along the way. Those are the type of threads where the gullible might get sucked in to. Bhagwan is NOT in that category.

Please keep up the good work Bhagwan. I know plenty here appreciate your words of wisdom and possibly successful systems and staking plans. I know I do.

Agreed The Ocho, but Bhagwan commonly says "this shows promise or this looks promising or this seems to work or this is showing strong POT". My point is, unless there are results apart from UB's system tester to substantiate the comment, then best left unsaid. To say that the third favourite in a field of 6 is showing strong POT is misleading. It's backfitting at its worst.

Let's have constructive debate for sure. I'm all for that.

Regardless of whether the result is backfitted or not, or whether the system has merit or not the comments have started healthy debate and some interesting data has been presented. Everybody gains and they gain because it was said and not as suggested be left unsaid.
If everybody listened to mama and thought twice about posting before posting, the world would still be in the middle ages. Putting it out there makes us grow.
Thanks to ALL POSTERS.

Thanks to all those with the positive feed back.
This is all about sharing certain findings for FREE
Where further research may be needed before real money is used.



"when you post an idea you think will work follow up with daily results."

That's a positive idea Bernie.
This can now be your new unpaid job from now on.
That way we wont be accused of not being impartial.
And you wont be accused of being too lazy to do your own research.

I hope no one is expecting to be spoon fed here.


Thanks for the stats Dominic.
It shows that the 6 horse fields had the strongest 3rd Fav SR out of all the field sizes.

This is the secondary FREE source, other than UB's FREE data, that some were complaining about.
This too was back researched - For FREE by Domininc .

Now this raises the question of which set of figures do you wish to work with, seeing that the Betfair figures were considered questionable by some others, why would the TAB figures also not also be questionable.

Unless of course, one is deliberately fishing for a negative, then in that case just take the figures you like , just like Politicians do.
Then say, there , I told you so.

The minus profit balance was to be expected using TAB prices, because its average price will always be less than Betfair.

I wish to encourage others out there to put forward their findings , no matter how wild they may be.

Wild ideas are usually the more interesting to read.

If we relied on the na sayers all the time, nothing would be put forward for further research and there would not be a Forum of sharing.

Have a look at the Forums overseas, its full of folk putting others down to such a degree that no sharing , of any findings, is done.

There is heaps of boring stuff, like how brilliant was that win of that $1.05 Fav in that race--So what! it was expected to win, at that price.

No matter what ideas anyone puts forward .
Do your own, follow up research.
You may be able to improve on it & make it your own.

Rather have SOMETHING THAN NOTHING.

Look how quiet it's been here since Barny AND D/Dog,
Have gone on holidays whether you agree or not.

Isn't that why we joined here in the first place.

RE-read my first 5 words.

Cheers.
Garyf.

Completely agree with your comments Garyf.

Hopefully Barny and D-dog can smoke a peace pipe on their return.

Bhagwan, I fully appreciate your input as you have a completely different approach to this game which always makes me think. There's no way I'd start betting your systems without a decent trial period first. Keep up the good work!!

The Schmile

Thanks for the positive replies guys.

I suggest you go reread the SOMETHING that led to their banning.
You may have a different opinion if those Profanities were directed at you instead of me.

The idea of banning for a period is to get contributing members to be nice.
Hopefully when the boys get back they will.
I'm sure DoggyBoy will.
Barny? - Not so much.

Yeah read it.

Didn't see the abusive one that was hurled at you though?.
Must have been deleted before i got to it.

Only read the ones where the commentary between those two,
was deemed unsatisfactory by the moderators.