good laugh topsy.
I think they are reasonably honest except a couple. Harvey is too good for most and no amount of cheating will stop him. I have seen Brown and Turner conveniently run into some dead ends before. browns worse ride was on heavily backed(one bet 10000 e/w) back marker Baywood(now deceased) who he took forward after landing midfield from the jump.
hmm...

i dont assume any thing is particularly dishonest except when the price gets shorter it seems to increase the risk.
i have just recently got sattelite and am now watching races each saturday.
a lot of rides appear to be too incompetent to be dishonest but I suppose i am not sitting on the horse so it is easy to criticise.

sandgroper, I'm not knocking El Gordo, he did well but I counted 7 from 35, not 7 from 8, just a thought.

My actual statement partypooper was "nice tipping - 7 of the 8 winners at a glance" and if you look more closely you would see that El Gordo had 29 runners for 7 winners, 5 seconds, 5 thirds, 4 quinellas / exactas, 2 trifectas and 5 doubles.

I consider this pretty good going, and provided free of charge.

I repeat, nice tipping El Gordo (and don't forget the 10% managers fee) :lol:

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[ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2003-07-25 11:14 ]

I agree Sandgroper, good tipping even 7/29 considering all at one meeting, say 25% SR and for free as you say, I only bet level stakes all runners, haven't done the maths but I guess a profit as well.

Race 2 today believe (8) Indian Pacific & (9) Thorium could be good value bets. Race 3 I like (7) Family Dreams. Race 4 will be boxing (3) Mr Tambourineman, (5) Angel Lea & (8) Jashar Boy (to run 1st / 2nd) with the field. Good luck everyone.

Belmont tomorrow - Saturday 13th September 03.

R1: Ostraval should be a little bit too strong for them. Next best Big Dam, Don't Say Don't & Ginger Gem.

R2: World of Fun if he can find best form, Rose of Thunder, Detail & Laetare dangers.

R3: Amba Ale hard to catch. Princes Park a strong chance. The Grey Cardinal & Fly My Kite chances on best form.

R4: Corporate Sam to finish too strongly. Spanish Grill, Elite Business & Lukaboom also chances.

R5: Likely hotpot Blevvo a good chance but both She's Captivating & Twin Power well weighted and capable of winning. Keldaan next best.

R6: Crap race. Go for Ice Warrior over Sabre Chief, Our Selection & Honami.

R7: Small field - open race. Try Highlighted over Halo Magic, She's a Rose & likely fav. Feel The Pulse.

R8: A hard one to finish off the day. May not be a lot of pace, which may suit horses like Rapid Rancher & Moss Minster. If left alone in front can surprise. Ice Magic, Mani & Ivory Lane are all likely to be flooding home.

5 from 33 again well done, our selection brough home the bacon, thanks!

Agree with partypooper El Gordo, not a bad effort, although looks more like 6 winners from 30 selections (after scratchings) :wink:

Your crap race turned out to be the best, almost landing a nice trifecta. :smile:


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[ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2003-09-14 01:05 ]

Sandgroper, I stand corrected again 6 winners. though, I only picked 2 races where I thought there might be value and backed all of El gordos selections for 1 winner, but it was a beaut! I wasn't so lucky at Sydney and Melbourne unfortunately.