Whitey,was not meaning to have a go at you,so please do not misunderstand me either.If you are making a go of it with your ratings,goodonya!My point was that your point cannot be classified as valid if you post after the event.I too can post all sorts of facts and figures,ratings etc. AFTER the event.What does that prove?Also betting on the TAB is betting against other punters,agreed,you are my competitor,but betting with a bookie is a totally different ball game.....HE is my competitor,NOT YOU!I am trying to take his money,not yours.

dont worry too much about it.
i have the same problem. i cant post because i work off prices and other factors and dont consider my tips good enough to encourage other people to spend money on them.
but i do get excited if i am right occasionally and get on a bolter.
i was talking recently about horses coming back in distance and winning (anyone have a go at genesis on saturday)

Shaun,

Glad to hear you bet for fun too, but on that topic and without taking the liberty of speaking for other forum members, even a casual perusal of past posts on record here, will clearly reveal that most punters here do indeed punt to try and make a profit.

The subject of betting for fun or profit has come up in this forum several times and you are one of the very few and the only one I can think of apart from myself, who has claimed in a post that profit is not their number 1 reason for punting. I am sure there are others, but we would be a definite minority.

Even the title of this thread is called 'Winning'.

Cheers.



[ This Message was edited by: crash on 2004-03-31 03:14 ]

Howdy Chrome,

Regarding computers you wrote:

Quote: 'Whatever you can think of can be input and assessed including variables'.

You get out of a database exactly what you put in'. End quote.

I couldn't agree more. What you get out though is only as accurate as the values you input. Input subjective values [nothing else is possible] for the multitude of variables and that is exactly what you will get out ...a very variable value !!! LOLOL

Cheers.




[ This Message was edited by: crash on 2004-03-31 03:36 ]

re having fun and winning.
i have been playing around with horses for a long time and frankly find most racing boring. so i try to make my methods fun and challenging not so much as to make money but to entertain and sometimes think i'm clever.
the persuit itself lends itself to disaster and i try not to go there.
i have often been able to bet for 6 months on a solitary $50 investment and one year made over a $1000 withdrawn from my tab account and put towards a new computer.
i know the big timers will laugh at this but i am able to put my business income and wages in the bank and buy land and stuff without wasting it on hobbies.
and still enjoy the sport of kings.
over the years i have not seen the consistency in horses to get particularly confident about it.
as one great punter once said every race is an event and you shouldnt treat one event the same as the next else you will lose your money.
it takes too much time to make each race an event so i dont go there.
so it statistical betting for me and hope the winners fall where i think they will fall.
good luck

[quote]
On 2004-03-30 11:44, Luckyboy wrote:
xptdriver,

Firstly thanks for supplying your assessed market prices. It is very generous offer you provide.

I write:
No worries I enjoy doing it..

Luckyboy then wrote:
I would like to ask you a question as to what your selection would be based on value if (using your example) the assessed prices versus the actual price (AP) were:

Coffs Harbour 29 March
Race 1 01:42 PM
Comfort Inn City Centre Hcp. Handicap Open
3 $1.5 Fire Bright AP $4.50
4 $4.7 Planet Lover AP $4.50
1 $6.2 Darcy D'Or AP $8.00
5 $8.3 Laminated AP$15.50

This is a typical problem that faces the 'value' punter assessing chance to price. I hope you can shed some of your experienced light here…

Thanks in advance.


Luckyboy

I write:

I appreciate the problem. I have said for a long time that I wont tell people how to bet, that is up to the individual. Your idea of value may be different to mine. You may only take 2 x overs or 3x, where I may bet them all that are over what I reckon they should be.. it's up to the individual.. I supply the prices I reckon they should be,(including the TAB take out) to help the person who has made a selection to work out if they are getting a good price. Whether the person takes the advice is entriely up to them.. In the race above I only backed Fire Bright. Say Planet lover was going off at say 20/1 I woulda had a bit on it as well.. The one thing i will say is that i set the amount of my bet based on my price not the TAB or bookie price.. thats why a horse that i reckon should be 2's on wins at 4's it becomes a magnificent overlay because i have bet it as if it was only $1.50, alternatively had it started at 1.50 it would be going around without my cash and I would likely leave the race alone or scale back my bet on something else.. .. It was one of the rare times where I got it right :smile: I hope that explains things a bit..