Yep, they sure are. I think I put you onto that one didn't I? ;)

Yes, you did, Sportz, and it has helped me greatly, Hard to believe an ex
off track betting manager from Chicago created it.


Glenn

back to the In-Play betting...

Betfair turn cricket and golf 'out of play' overnight, ie when play isn't going on. This is a contentious issue in the wording of the law, but Centrebet do it as well as far as i can see.

The law only applies to betting online, you can make exactly the same bets over the phone (yes it is stupid, but we are dealing with politicians here who don't understand the issue and brought it in purely as a sap job to appease the ant-gambling crusaders who wanted pokies banned but states govts are addicted to the revenue...). Anything offered in-play with Betfair can be bet via the phone, but minimum limits apply - I've found them pretty relaxed about enforcing that for Aussies - it's usually £50 min but I've had no trouble getting on for AU$50 on cricket...

As for betting on racing in-running, there are a few fields of thought -

- either you are mighty quick with your judgement and fingers
- or you take a stats based approach (leaders at the 600m mark only win X% of races at track Y)
- or you try to lay two horses at odds-on in a race (my preferred option)

Jumps season seems to be the best for it, simply because of the length of the race and split-second timing isn't as critical.

If you can read a race yourself without relying on the commentary, it is a bonus. In the Olympic marathon (women), the Brit commentator was raving about how the 2nd woman was storming home and would breeze past the leader.. she traded way into the red and never caught the leader. The price swings within about 3 minutes were quite staggering.

Proxies....
 

zedative... my approach is always stats based...The only access to radio coverage that I have found for these races is through Bill Hill bookie site which is clearly a delayed telecast, and it is so boring and depressing listening to those guys monotone voices... As I said earlier I would back for a bit over the start price and lay for a percentage under the start price. I would do this for the first 4-5 favs. The problem would be that if only 1 of the 2 bets was matched you are guaranteed to lose that bet...
eg. Horse starts at $2. As soon as the market turns in play, you back it at $2.5, lay it at $1.5. If the horse gets off to a bad start and never recovers, the odds will never get down to $1.5 but will go out to 999-1 guaranteeing that you have backed it for a win at $2.5.
Knowing this, it might seem like a stupid idea, but having seen the wild fluctations, it would have to be tested to see the percentage of bets that get matched... $1 per horse would provide little risk/gain but would give a good insight as to if it is viable...

Getting back to legality...
Knowing that the ban on Oz punters through BF is IP based, one would only have to change or disguise your IP. I would never dream of doing anything illegal, but hypothetically speaking, I have been informed that a proxy server would disguise your IP so as to appear in another country.
How would one go about setting this up, hypothetically speaking of course......

google is a wonderful way to find info like that if you type in certain key words...