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xanadu 26th November 2008 01:58 PM

What about when some of these so-called "egg-sperts" recommend "horses to follow?"
I know that some of them have been following the horses for years.....usually with a bucket and spade.......!!!
Some of their strike-rate is abysmal!

Cheers.

xanadu 6th December 2008 04:37 PM

I'm sure the usual media sycophants will applaude the decision to allow C. Munce to resume riding in Sydney.
To snub the directives of HK officials has the potential to damage international racing relations forever.
I hope the officials who made this decision are confident in their actions.
Most of the betting public whose opinions I sought think otherwise!

Cheers.

crash 6th December 2008 05:00 PM

You have to be joking. Munce would have had a suspension and fine here not jail. Good to see him soon back in the saddle . Sycophants my foot and stuff the Hong Kong Jockey Club, they don't rule the world. Like him or not, he's done his time and not making the rules here so get over it.

xanadu 6th December 2008 05:10 PM

crash,
with a "handle" like that you may "walking on very thin ice" as we do not know what the consequences may be "down the track."
It is similar to extradition treaties all over the world...if any nation "breaks ranks" then it may advertise that it is OK to break laws overseas(in particular nations) and seek sanctuary in Oz-where will that lead us...into a potential "cess-pool" of toleration.
I know the "silent majority" support my and CP's stance.
Haveagoodun.

crash 6th December 2008 05:12 PM

Flaming is not a good idea but as you can never help yourself: Don't worry about my handle, your's [mythical paradise] says far more old son. And as for 'silent majority'? That would be you I suppose?

xanadu 6th December 2008 05:21 PM

Yeah, right,
Look, it is "all done and dusted"...the decision has been made but I am wondering what "damage" has been done to our international reputation.
I believe that emotion has been utilized brilliantly by some individuals to secure their desired outcome...but, at what future cost?
I'll leave everyone to contemplate that.

Cheers.

crash 6th December 2008 05:35 PM

The point is: In the scheme of things, who cares?

xanadu 6th December 2008 05:38 PM

A lot of people do,
He'll be under intense scrutiny from now on!

Cheers.

crash 6th December 2008 05:48 PM

Maybe along with plenty of other jocks and trainers too [who have not yet been caught being naughty].

xanadu 6th December 2008 05:58 PM

That is precisely why I have been campaigning for an ICAC officer to be appointed to work with and also independently from the Steward Panel(ie. he/she reports directly to the Minister For Racing).
Make no mistake..this is no longer a "sport"... this is a $multi-million turnover enterprise and should be administered as such.
Any proven wrong-doers should incur the full penalties of criminal law.

Cheers.

crash 6th December 2008 07:27 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by xanadu
Make no mistake..this is no longer a "sport"... this is a $multi-million turnover enterprise

Cheers.


When was it ever anything else [this century anyway]?

xanadu 6th December 2008 07:59 PM

Well.......,
some of the scandals which occurred last century were treated in some sections of the media as being the actions of "larrikins" even though $millions of hard-working Oz workers' wagers were denied them due to nefarious tactics.
There have been numerous incidents which were criminal acts and were investigated and actioned accordingly.


Cheers.

xanadu 8th December 2008 11:26 AM

post82,
Well it didn't take long for the repercussions to unfold with the news yesterday that HK may ban NSW punters from wagering upon their product. The cause was not aided by a somewhat arrogant response from NSW racing official(s) who said: "so what!" and inflammatory comments such as: "it is like cutting off their nose to spite their face."
Also some "prigs" in the media asked: "do HK think they run racing?"
Well mate, take a look at how NSW racing is going presently with small fields being the aaaa! Maybe someone should take a long, hard look at how NSW racing is being administered.
Also, I ask if there is a turnover deduction shortfall from the lack of HK racing will the same official(s) make up the difference from their "fat" salaries?
Think about what you have done!
Also, today on 2KY the CEO HK Racing, Mr Bill Nader was interviewed and expressed his disappointment that relations between the two bodies has deteriorated. Importantly, he outlined the facts that C. Munce pleaded guilty to 35 counts/offences and chose not to lodge an appeal although this mechanism was in place-so he WAS given "natural justice!"
I have just heard that NSWTAB will not be betting on HK races this week(although this has been the case for some time now).
I hope the participants in this saga realize the repercussions of their actions as the betting public may be drawn into this maelstom, which IMO will not be going away for some time.

Cheers.

michaelg 8th December 2008 11:54 AM

If another Oz jockey gets into trouble in H.K. or even another country that has different penalties to us, I wonder how accommadating those foreign authorities will now be.

xanadu 8th December 2008 12:02 PM

michaelg,
Yeah, that's right because: "to every action there is a reaction!"
I also wonder if the hoop in question was an apprentice or a "Neville Nobody" senior rider would we see the same "outrage" or moral support expressed by some of the sycophants in the media?
Cheers.

xanadu 26th December 2008 03:09 PM

Who is the racing radio announcer who broadcasts with the aplomb of an ABC/BBC newsreader?
(no offence intended-all in good Xmas fun!)
havagoodun.

xanadu 26th December 2008 06:05 PM

What about some of these radio "tipsters/eggsperts.............?"
They are "fair dinkum" kiddin' aren't they.......?
SR5 13 unp
SR7 1 unp
MR1 1 WON $1.7w$1.3plNSW
MR4 8 unp
MR5 10 unp
MR8 10 unp
and they get paid for this "guff?"
what more can I say........?

Cheers.

xanadu 26th December 2008 07:58 PM

Post deleted. No profanities please. Moderator.

maverick1993 26th December 2008 08:28 PM

Peter picked a pack of pickled peppers :)

Mr Wilson did ok in Brissie ,,i only had the one bet today Zero Rock and it paid $1.40 lol ,,,suppose its better than bank interest ...

anyway thanks for the pondering and perceptions,,dont know what we'd do without them :)

xanadu 26th December 2008 08:36 PM

Particularly well-perceived maverick,
please participate, particularly in perceived parodies of present-day players!
Please peruse particular parties' prognostications....!
You are particularly perceptive in your preponderences!

rabbitz 27th December 2008 09:21 AM

Low content. Moderator.

xanadu 27th December 2008 02:05 PM

Low content. Moderator.

crash 6th January 2009 01:51 PM

I't might seem a bit obvious, but the best solution for punters with no faith in the punting media [or whatever] would be to do their own form perhaps and ignore/don't listen to, those coat tugger opinions entirely [?]

maverick1993 6th January 2009 02:12 PM

Nothing worse than thinking you've found something at value then have Mr Lester or Brassal flog the thing in the morning ,,, then on the other hand i love it when the tipping bandwagon tip something i think is vulnerable ,,great to lay and it also gives you better value for your selection..

xanadu 22nd March 2009 04:43 PM

There was a race at Cranbourne today when the commentator stated "authoritively" that a certain horse would not be able to handle the 1200m of today's race.
Well, this particular runner jumped well and quickly joined the leaders most of the way and faded in the last 200m to finish a close 4th.
"Fair Dinkum" - this bloke is the "Kiss Of Death" for all punters and his betting method is similar to that of a 12YO.
Sheesh,
Why do they let him tip......?
He hasn't tipped a winner since "Noah was a boy!"

Cheers.

Percentum 5th April 2009 01:06 PM

The Good, The Bad and The Atrocious
 
I think Larry Olsen, Jack Petley and Ron Dufficy do a good job.

A local sports and occasional racing commentator asked what I think is probably the most inane question I've ever heard to a kick boxer (but probably, to most followers of this 'sport'penetrating and relevant).
I can still hear it in my mind's ear (wish I could get it out of there).

He asked, verbatim: ''Do you ever think about gittin' beat?''
My immediate thought was as I dropped whatever it was that I was doing: ''This is quality radio.''

Relevance, depth and eloquence in just seven words

xanadu 25th June 2009 06:48 PM

I must admit that I have certainly enjoyed the last couple of programs of a Sunday morning racing-orientated program.
The reason....the new panel member "knows what he is talking about" rather than the usual incumbent who always has an agenda-driven program in his lethargic summations.
More of the same please minus one "lame-duck!"
If anyone listened to Skysports Radio they would soon realize who the informative assessors of the racing game were!
Good Luck to Them!

xanadu 15th July 2009 02:03 PM

I was very pleased to see that Sky Racing has a "new" commentator/host...Gary Wilkinson.
Good to have you aboard "Wilko" and all the best to one of the most professional and versatile commentators in the business.

Cheers.

xanadu 16th July 2009 12:58 PM

Isn't it great to have "Miracle" Mal Johnston on Sky Sports Radio each Thursday morning?
He displays his natural cheeky character but what is more endearing to the listeners is the way he refers to his apprentice charges as "my girl/boy."
Dare I say it....he is like a "mother hen"(please accept that in the best possible way).
More of the same please and all the best to "Miracle!"
We haven't forgotten you mate..."Miracle" and "the King"...what a combination......!!!!!

Cheers.

xanadu 27th September 2009 12:42 PM

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xanadu 19th December 2009 06:06 PM

I question the value of so-called "exclusive" interviews with trainers and connections of the chances in upcoming races....do you?
Why would they tell the "mugs" who provide the betting turnover which allows many to "wallow" in luxury...all provided by the supposedly "illiterate" betting public? Why don't the commentators ask what the interviewee has wagered upon?
As I've said before, the definition of "mug" is:
Most
Unlikely
Gain
Accordingly, as I have recommended many times before...do your own form study and wager with a viable betting strategy....that's if you can "tear" yourself away from the Champagne Bar!
There is an arrogance displayed by some broadcasters which re-affirms their deluded perceptions that they are "the chosen few" who are entitled to "reap" the profits from the generally uninformed public who are treated as "cash-cows" for their extravagant lifestyle.
However, as they say "there is one born every minute....!"

xanadu 30th December 2009 02:48 PM

Who is the commentator who made a "Freudian slip" when he said to his colleague who has interests in the trotting caper:"You've been having a "red-hot" run lately!"
Realizing his "faux pas" he quickly exited stating:"I'd better stop while I'm in front!"
Red faces all round!

xanadu 9th January 2010 05:57 PM

Forumites and the general betting public must give thanks to "the bigfella," Andrew Bensley in his current stint on Sky Sports Radio.
This morning, amongst his list of interviewees were: Peter Robl(BR6 11 $5.9w$2.1plNSW; Anthony Cummings SR6 1 $5.8w$2.2plNSW; Mitch Beadman SR4 1 $20.6w$3.1plNSW; David Payne SR2 4 Magic Model $7.6w$2.1plNSW, K.Lees and others, so the astute punter could have had a good day.
Keep up the good work in place of the usual incumbent who has established a high standard.
He mentioned that he was broadcasting from the race-callers box and the humidity was already taking it's toll.
Perhaps we will see a streamlined "Hoss" when he next appears on TV or has he replenished his liquids with some icy cold beverage....?

Cheers.

xanadu 23rd January 2010 01:45 PM

WHO COULD THEY BE......!?
Is it true that two "solid, well-proportioned" commentators with renowned healthy appetites had a "falling-out" at the Newcastle Cup meeting in Sept'09 over a chicken sandwich?
They have since obviously patched up their differences but many pundits have expressed their "fear" of getting between these two blokes and a feed!

Cheers.

xanadu 30th January 2010 05:45 PM

AR7, No.6 Sarem
The commentator declared: "It's a special, how can they beat it...?"
Well mate...not only did it not win but couldn't run a place!

Cheers.

xanadu 6th February 2010 04:04 PM

Post deleted. No more like this. Thanks. Moderator.

xanadu 10th February 2010 04:33 PM

Who was it........?
SR5, No.7 Buckmoore 2nd $3.10
A well-proportioned commentator mused that this name would be a good moniker for a porn star(remember that Seinfeld episode with George: "buck-naked?"). His female co-host could not contain herself and many of we viewers/listeners were left with the image of this bloke lying on a beach.....think beached whale..."is anyone a marine biologist....?").
"The horror......the horror......!"
(No offence intended).
Cheers.

xanadu 11th February 2010 04:43 PM

No more name calling. Thanks. Moderator.

xanadu 25th February 2010 06:13 PM

Please do not post unsubstantiated innuendo. Post deleted.
Moderator.

xanadu 26th February 2010 06:45 PM

Who is the commentator who is constantly "talking up" the "red hots?"
This character gives "precise" in-depth form analysis as to why certain horses should run well...but after they fail he is "missing in action!"
Mate....no-one is listening because they realize this form of racing is only for the participants...heaven help the "mug" punters who provide the turnover to keep these "characters" in luxury.

Cheers.


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