I should point out that Ellislie and NZ are one and the same. When I did a copy and paste from my notebook I didn't realize I had 2 lots of NZ tips :-)

Coffs Harbour
R6/8 Ramraja
Eagle Farm
R5/2 Good Timing [2nd.p5.60] 25/1 shot
Kyneton
Brief Alliance Scr.
Newcastle
R4/9 Grey Night. Don't know where I got this one from. Can't find him to bet[?]
Oakbank
R9/6 Go August
Ellerslie
R8/11 Alltogether [scr]


Caulfield
R7/5 Pinsemtoit
Eagle farm
R2/6 Buck's Secret [p2.60]
5/3Mikan
Newcastle
R8/1 Red Valentino [w3.4 p1.60]
Oakbank [wet track]
Pioneer Park [NT] Not on the TAB radar it seems. Can't find any results [?]
Ellerslie NZ [wet track]
Devonport [wet track]
Ascot
R2/2 Foxy Boy [p1.50]
Syd.
R7 Three Chimneys [p7.30]
R8 Orpington [w7.90 p3.10]

Place outlay today 10 return 16.1 Profit 6.1
Win outlay today 10 return 11.30 Profit 1.30

From today I am using Unitab prices only as AIS is not available to those without an account. I win less but it's Unitab is more accessible to most and probably a better reflection of profit and loss. My own bets have been 1x4 e/w for several days now as the profit on the win is definitely there. However my personal bets aside, this is still a place tip thread. I am only noting win totals for those interested. Finally after some very good place wins I am back into a small profit for the place.

Total outlay on all place bets has been 118. Return 119.38 Loss 1.38
Total win results have been Outlay 118 units. Return: 127.66. Profit 9.66 .

I have accidentaly added in another of my system results wich are the top section tips above [The communist system]

Todays results should read:

Caulfield
R7/5 Pinsemtoit
Eagle farm
R2/6 Buck's Secret [p2.60]
5/3Mikan
Newcastle
R8/1 Red Valentino [w3.4 p1.60]
Oakbank [wet track]
Pioneer Park [NT] Not on the TAB radar it seems. Can't find any results [?]
Ellerslie NZ [wet track]
Devonport [wet track]
Ascot
R2/2 Foxy Boy [p1.50]
Syd.
R7 Three Chimneys [p7.30]
R8 Orpington [w7.90 p3.10]

Place outlay today 7 return 16.1 Profit 9.1
Win outlay today 7 return 11.30 Profit 4.30

Total outlay on all place bets has been 111. Return 113.78 Profit 2.78
Total win results have been Outlay 111 units. Return: 127.66. Profit 16.66

Unitab have results for it, Crash. Under Alice Springs. Afraid your pick didn't run a place.

Thanks for that Merriguy.
I was going to do a search this morning. I was ************ed last night. I'm leaving it off the totals though as I couldn't bet it on IAS or Vic. Tab. The new form service I switched too recently has all race meetings. I didn't realize that meant including those hard to get a bet on for. I won't include NT anymore.

While I'm here I can fix up my overall totals before someone picks me up on them. I was tired and included bets from a system accidentally, took them off and subtracted the place bet it won from my total returns but subtracted 7 units from my outlay instead of the 3 units the system had bet. I have to slow down a bit, as I'm up at 4am [can't help it, always up at that time]. Old enough for a nap in the arvo now I think [before the main races about R4 :-)].

Total outlay on all place bets has been 115 units. Return 113.78 Loss 1.22
Total win results have been Outlay 115 units. Return: 127.66. Profit 12.66

Sunday 16th

Albany
R5/7 Mayassa (12)
R6/1 Shane's Boy (9)

Cowra
R1/2 Real Arrow (12)

Penola
Penola R7/1 Wild Will (3)

Stawell
R7/13 Fereronoche (4)

Check Scr. and for rain affected tracks. I bet them 1x4 e/w now but hopefully the place component will be back in profit soon.

Cheers, Crash. Happy Easter.

Place place
Sunday 16th

Albany
R5/7 Mayassa (12) unp
R6/1 Shane's Boy (9) $1.90p

Cowra
R1/2 Real Arrow (12) 2.40p

Penola
Penola R7/1 Wild Will (3) unp

Oulay 4 units Return 4.30 Profit 0.30

Stawell rain affected.

I'm just using stab prices because that's what I get in Vic. after a race on the radio,Too much bother looking up unitab. It all evens out in the end.

You too mate. Just pig out on choc. eggs as Easter only comes one a year so who cares?. Chocolate [and salt now], according to recent science reports is good for you, as long as it's dark chocolate !

Melb. will be tricky and I have some longish odds among these here, as well as the 2 in Brisb. Fine weather except Oakbank [dead]. 1x4 e/w is my tip even for just the longshot ones.

Ascot
R4/3 Fred's Metal* -c (2) 56.0 -4yo b/br g (D G Mitchell at Ascot) R Markou (a 3.0)
R5/8 Scenic Assault (7) 53.0 -5yo gr/bl (L Smith at Casuarina) M Ewe (a 3.0)
R6/11 Obuasi (8) 53.03yo b g (F R Kersley at South Perth) S Mc Gruddy
R8/12 Metal Power* (13) 53.55yo br g (Ms A M Sharpe at Rangeway) R B Mc Kay
Caulfield
R2/2 Joy Of Flight (2) 57.06yo br m (J G Symons at Seymour) Ms N Beriman (a 3.0)
R3/11 Joie More (12) 53.03yo br f (D L Freedman at Rye) B Melham (a 1.5)
R4/8* Sera Cielo (2) 55.53yo b f (M J Williams at Warrnambool) B Rawiller
R5/16 Paternity (13) 53.03yo ch g (K M Keys at Cranbourne) Ms B Dunn (a 3.0)
R7/7 Drumbeater (15) 53.05yo b/br g (C I Brown at Narbethong) S Baster
Eagle Farm
R3/12 Lambretta (6) 53.06yo b g (D M Tunnah at Oakey) C Spry
R5/14 Loughnan (18) 53.54yo b g (P N Nolan at Toowoomba) A Pattillo

Malcom or the Lad in the Doncaster for me :-)

I'm taking no prisoners today. Hope some punters got on board and took my hint for 1x4 ew. Your wallowing in dough by now.

Ascot
R4/3 Fred's Metal (2) 56.0 -4yo b/br g (D G Mitchell at Ascot) R Markou (a 3.0) $1.60p
R5/8 Scenic Assault (7) 53.0 -5yo gr/bl (L Smith at Casuarina) M Ewe (a 3.0) Late Scr.
R6/11 Obuasi (8) 53.0 3yo b g (F R Kersley at South Perth) S Mc Gruddy
R8/12 Metal Power (13) 53.5 5yo br g (Ms A M Sharpe at Rangeway) R B Mc Kay $3.70p
Caulfield
R2/2 Joy Of Flight (2) 57.0 6yo br m (J G Symons at Seymour) Ms N Beriman (a 3.0) $6.20w $1.90p
R3/11 Joie More (12) 53.0 3yo br f (D L Freedman at Rye) B Melham (a 1.5) $1.50p
R4/8* Sera Cielo (2) 55.5 3yo b f (M J Williams at Warrnambool) B Rawiller $9.10w $2.70p
R5/16 Paternity (13) 53.0 3yo ch g (K M Keys at Cranbourne) Ms B Dunn (a 3.0)
R7/7 Drumbeater (15) 53.0 5yo b/br g (C I Brown at Narbethong) S Baster
Eagle Farm
R3/12 Lambretta (6) 53.0 6yo b g (D M Tunnah at Oakey) C Spry
R5/14 Loughnan (18) 53.5 4yo b g (P N Nolan at Toowoomba) A Pattillo $24.60w $5.20p

Place outlay 10 units Return 16.6 Profit 6.6 place.
Win outlay 10 units Return 39.9 Profit 29.9 [For 1x4 ew Place outlay 40 return 66.4 Profit 26.4]

Total outlay on all place bets has been 125 units. Return 129.60 Profit 4.60 [I'm ignoring 1x4 ew for scorimg].
Total win results have been Outlay 125 units. Return: 167.56. Profit 42.56

Good day and I hope few of you got onboard.

Well done crash, good to see some nice winners.
Hope it continues for ya!!

You're a legend Crash! keep it up!

Thanks guys. I must have had my eye in yesterday.. Not much excitement today but I hope the eye is still in. Not easy ones but I'll give them a whirl at 1x4 ew.

Scone

R5/5 Cotton On (4) 54.0 4yo b g (J A Sylvester at Cessnock) P Graham
R6/7 Queen Jill (4) 54.0 5yo b m (Ms R Cooper at Moonbi) L Morgan (a 1.5)
R8/4 Seven Stars (9) 56.0 3yo b f (R P Northam at Scone) A Robinson

Looks like Scone weather has caught me out. I thought it was a fine/good rating there when it was not obviously fine at all. I put all 3 bets on this morning and only heard the downgrade to dead just before R5 on the radio. Obviously Cotton on didn't like the rain and the damp track. Queen Jill did [2nd 2.60p] and after a quick look at the form Seven Stars should win this because it is now 'slow'. I'll let the bet ride and see how we go. Heavy will even be better. 3 starts for a win and a place in that going but there has been 4 or 5 scratching so odds will be skinny and probably no 3rd divvy. A local trainer helps too.

Scone Tues. 18th.

R5/5 Cotton On (4) 54.0 4yo b g (J A Sylvester at Cessnock) P Graham
R6/7 Queen Jill (4) 54.0 5yo b m (Ms R Cooper at Moonbi) L Morgan [p2.30]
R8/4 Seven Stars (9) 56.0 3yo b f (R P Northam at Scone) A Robinson [w1.80 p1.20]

Place Outlay 3 units Return 3.50 Profit 0.50units
Win outlay 3 Loss 1.2 .
1x4 P O/L 12 Return 14 Profit 2 Overall O/L 15 R 15.8 Profit 0.8 .

Wed. 19th.

Ipswich [fine/good]
R2/ 11 Slugger (10) 54.0 3yo b g (Malcolm Reynolds at Townsville) Ms P Edwards (a 3.0)
R6/6 Tilke Of Wales (NZ) (6) 55.0 4yo b g (M J Flanigan at Toowoomba) M Sano (a 3.0)
R8/2 Heavenly Cruise (15) 56.0 4yo b g (R J Macrae at Toowoomba) S Galloway

Ranwick [fine/good]
R1/2 Sea Chain* (5) 56.0 3yo b c (C I Brown at Narbethong) M Rodd
R2/2 Anwaar (8) 56.5 4yo b g (Ms G Waterhouse at Randwick) J Bowman
R4/5 Rock Revival (3) 55.04yo b m (Ms B Joseph at Canberra) Z Purton
R7/6 Double Dare (NZ) (3) 55.04yo gr g (C J Waller at Rosehill) J A Cassidy

Ipswich [fine/good]
R2/ 11 Slugger (10) 54.0 3yo b g (Malcolm Reynolds at Townsville) Ms P Edwards (a 3.0)
R6/6 Tilke Of Wales (NZ) (6) 55.0 4yo b g (M J Flanigan at Toowoomba) M Sano (a 3.0) [late scr.]
R8/2 Heavenly Cruise (15) 56.0 4yo b g (R J Macrae at Toowoomba) S Galloway

Ranwick [fine/good]
R1/2 Sea Chain* (5) 56.0 3yo b c (C I Brown at Narbethong) M Rodd
R2/2 Anwaar (8) 56.5 4yo b g (Ms G Waterhouse at Randwick) J Bowman [p1.80]

R4/5 Rock Revival (3) 55.04yo b m (Ms B Joseph at Canberra) Z Purton [w3.70 p 1.60]
R7/6 Double Dare (NZ) (3) 55.04yo gr g (C J Waller at Rosehill) J A Cassidy [p2.50]

Place O/L 6 Return 5.9 Loss 0.1
Win O/L 6 Return 3.7 Loss 2.3
1x4 O/L 30 Return 27.3 Loss 2.7

Tried a bit too hard on a couple of longshots [slugger and sea change] here, but for anyone following these tips, I personally reduce my exposure [bet] on them and raise it for more certain runners [rock revival and unlucky 2nd. anwaar].. Double Dare a normal bet [median] paid more for the place than the winner for the win and almost stole it. Check the odds on my tips to judge your bet amounts would be my advice. Slugger was about 60/1 [4th].

Thurs. 20th March

Bunbury
R6/3 Grand Academy (8) 55.0 4yo b/br g (P J Giadresco at Gelorup) W Pike
Wyong
R5/5 Tercesa (1) 53.5 4yo ch m (Ms G Waterhouse at Randwick) Ms L J Meech
R7/5 Maxi's Boy (7) 56.04yo b g (R J Quinton at Randwick) Tim Clark (a 2.0)


CR Bunbury (WA) sunny Top of 25 degrees.
AR Port Lincoln (SA) 6mm Rain. showers
BR Townsville (QLD) Winds and Showers easing
SR Wyong (NSW) 2mm rain Clearing showers

None of Thurs. selections even placed. For basically a place system, I guess you could call that a 'run of outs' [?] :-)

Saterday 22nd. April

Ascot
R9/2 Cristobal

Eagle Farm
R6/2 Shepishir
R7/9 Umatrick

Morphetville
R2/2 Aptitry
R3/2 Fraaclasse
R4/6 Flying Object
R5/3 Master Tianger
R6/4 Plans
R7/5 Royal Ida
R8/8 Denning

Moonee Valley
R5/6 Ginspiel [good or dead ok]

Toowoomba
R3/1 Pearl Of Piccolo
R5/2 Bee Dub

Check scratchings and condt.

Saturday 22nd. April

Ascot [o/cast / good]
R8/2 Cristobal

Eagle Farm [fine/good]
R6/2 Shepishir
R7/9 Umatrick

Morphetville [overcast/good]
R2/2 Aptitry
R3/2 Fraaclasse [w$4.50 p$160]
R4/6 Flying Object [w$3.10 p$2.20]
R5/3 Master Tianger [p$2.90]
R6/4 Plans [$2.10]
R7/5 Royal Ida
R8/8 Denning [p$1.80]

Moonee Valley [Slow]

Toowoomba [fine/good]
R3/1 Pearl Of Piccolo
R5/2 Bee Dub [$1.50]

Place O/L 12 R 12.1 P 0.1.

Missed on the 2 Brisbane longish shots. Would have been nice to get one of them. I did pick up on Zabeet [NZ] in the Syd. Cup for a 1x4 ew and he almost won at 45/1 [2nd.$7.20p] . He was too long in the odds to put here, so I had him on top in 'the race of the day' comp. Watch for him in the Melb. Cup, a true 2 miler. A Kiwi will win it this year I think.

Well it's been an interesting exercise but I wouldn't give up a day job to try and make a living on place bets. Outright win bets that came up here have killed the place bet. Both are in profit but the win bet only made a very good profit.

These are the last tips for this thread as I will be going back to my normal win bet ways and don't run a tip thread for them. There is certainly a possible future in [selective] 1X4 ew punting, but for me and mine the place only is a hard road with lots of work and little return. I'll leave it for the place experts.

Tips [mostly, but not all from a system I'm working on].

Swan Hill
R8/7 Britain Drive (6) 53.55yo ch m (P A Preusker at Horsham) Ms H Mc Kechnie*

Victoria Park
R7/2 Any Dane Now (3) 56.04yo b m (Aaron Purcell at Warrnambool)
C. Bryant

Ranwick-Kensington
R7/4 St. Tevoc (1) 56.07yo br g (K A Lees at Broadmeadow)
R8/2 Ledger (3) 55.54yo b g (T J Robinson at Berry) Peter Wells (a 3.0)

Flemington
R3/6 Lake Charlotte (USA) (1) 55.55yo b m (D L Freedman at Rye) L Nolen
R5/5 Titanic Jack (15) 55 (T.J Hugues Jr) B. Rawiller [a long-shot bet]
R8/7 Wings On Fire (NZ) (2) 54.56yo b m (M D Moroney at Flemington) G J Childs

Ascot
R6/3 Calico Blue (7) 55.03yo b f (Ms R Macphilomey at Geraldton) M R Forder

Cheers
Crash.