Move on mate, Darky has far to much say here and has destroyed it for anyone with 1/2 a brain.

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2 days results (on their own) don't mean a thing, but for the record:

Bets 45 Wins 9 ..S/R =20% rets 46.10 (best tote) Win 1.1 = 2.44% POT

Ave. Price of Winners = $5.12

That $20 winner might have been at Eagle farm..... who knows?

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If you feel another user is an idiot, that's your business. No-one cares. Don't post about it in the forums. Add them to your ignore list if you feel strongly about it. If you feel the user has violated the Terms of Use, report it via the TOU violation function.

A bit of a overeaction there Bazza.
The reality of betting often shocks some but better to know now before ALL the hard earned is squandered trying to beat the game.
Punting on horses is a Negative Sum Game.

Here he goes again, come on management I thought this was a winning punters forum?.

What I,m saying is have REALISTIC expectations of what can be achieved on the punt.
In my earlier example of a $9825 TO /Profit $266 is 2.7 % on TO
The late Ian Barnes said He,d be ecstatic with a POT of 4 % but was never able to achieve that long term.
The Late Don Scott achieved 5 % longterm but in his day he was the very best.
Re Barry .He may have animosity towards me because after 44 years I know whats real and he cant yet accept that.He will in time I,m sure.
I,m sorry if I,ve burst his bubble but he,s not just the only one who reads this post and better to know now than be constantly striving to achieve the impossible.
Cheers
darky

Darky is very good to Bazza.

Even though Bazza calls him mean names & stuff.

Where Darky has only ever shown him kindness of heart.

The Bhagwan will now pray for Bazza & may the Punting Gods show him the path to humility & peace of soul.

Hey Mr. Barry (is that a nom de plume, or your real name? look at the views you've accumulated, nothing like a bit of conflict eh?

You know not every one is your enemy , I'm enjoying rooting for your nags, especially Sealynx and Fumio as they were also my bets, today though I managed to get out in front with Its a star.

Keep posting!

I will be unable to post until a bit later today guys, say around 3pm.

My thoughts exactly Guru Bhagwan.Let our minds join together to spread love and harmony to Bazza.

Oh and by the way where,s me orange robe I lent ya.

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Here are todays sure fire winners.


bar R02 # 4 Red Savina

bar R04 # 6 Tea For Three

bar R05 # 2 Them's The Rules

bar R06 #10 Head North

bar R07 # 6 Masai Miss

bar R07 # 7 Yau Chin

haw R01 # 6 Dolled Up

haw R04 # 1 Vilayet

haw R04 # 4 Our Magicgaze

haw R06 # 4 Judi's Law

roc R02 # 1 Pandemonia

roc R02 # 2 Run Kylie Run

roc R03 # 4 Refuhrence

roc R06 # 1 Three Little Words

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Not quite but much better.Thanks for asking.
Hey Mooee With Barrys selections I,m a bit confused so I,ll ask.
Are we betting to win or to lose with Betfair.?
Cheers
darky

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I can only speak for myself, and I am adding up how much a dollar a win on the TAB would cost if I did in fact wager on all his animals, and to Tally up what the TAB would return to me had I done so.
Only pretend money though , because I don't trust people in Real Life , much less on the internet, that claim situations are as brilliant , or in your case Darky, as dire , and I figure I would be a bigger fool to do so than I already am.

But if the bloke did win, I would like to know how he did it so I could apply the reasoning to my studies.
No great loss to my situation really whether he does depart except for the entertainment value really.
And Darky, I not really much amused by your numerous posts, but I do appreciate that you help keep this Forum alive by doing so.

Letters and Numbers systems is silly because horses ain't been to school.
Trigger is the only horse what can count and Mr. Ed is the only one what can read and neither are Thouroughbreds.

Oh dear Moeee, you now show your colours again with your next post.
Moeee if you are betting still with the TAB mate either you are an absolute genius and most books have closed you down or an absolute fool like you state you are.
I think we all know the answer Moeee.

Yeah I was a bit rude responding to his own rudeness.
I tend to take no prisoners in my responses.
I too wish him well and I too am recording the selections from today (flat stakes)
My initial thoughts are that there would need to be a very high strike rate to compensate for the prices but only time will tell.
In the meantime its all good fun in the recording and keeps the old brain active.
Cheers
darky

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Day 3

Bets 59... Hits= 12....S/R 20.34%...Rets. 55.10 Win/Lose -3.9.. LOT 6.61%

Average price of winners = $4.49


2-300 bets would indicate expected profitability, but its about 1000bets when a bad day hardly causes a ripple on the stats.

And as I've said several times 1 bad day, or even a bad month should not cause too much concern after many thousands of bets with a proven plan.

Thank PP for your update mate, very helpful for you to do this for me.

And Darky I must appologise for going at you me old mate, hopefully we can put it behind us old pal and get on with winning.

Good on you Mr Barry.
Cheers
darky

Will be no post of bets tomorrow as I am out of town.

I can show you several threads where people have made more then 4% over a lot of bets. Maria for instance. It can be done and it is done by clever people. Whether Mr Barry is one s still to be proven ... mayb he is ... more then likely he falls into the 95% of punters though but until I see a few hundred bets I won't make any judgement.

Mr Barry, try and get your selections up mate as I feel at least 5-10 winners looming, always happens after a couple of bad days (well nearly always)

by the way, can you send me a bit of whatever you've had today? hahahahah!

just joking!

ben R01 # 5 Tiger's Paws

ben R02 # 1 Star Of Jeune

ben R02 # 2 Chosen One

ben R04 #13 Twizzle

ben R06 # 1 Gala Guzzler

ben R07 # 1 Royal Grace

ben R07 # 6 Testy Girl

ben R08 # 9 Miss Nederlands

ben R08 #13 Solarco

coh R01 # 1 Hackers

coh R02 # 2 Coolcap

coh R02 #10 Baltic

coh R03 # 3 Capital Raising

coh R05 # 3 King Shane

coh R06 # 4 Dash's Princess

coh R07 # 8 Erinsea

ger R01 # 1 Annear

ger R03 # 1 Classic Drop

ger R04 # 2 Comanchero

ger R04 # 4 Vienna Charm

ger R05 # 3 Temple Church

ger R06 # 6 Miss Sambuca

ger R07 # 3 Chief Of War

ips R06 # 4 Lissoy's Lass

tam R01 # 4 Alannet

tam R05 # 2 Oribi

tam R06 # 2 Sage Of Omaha

tam R08 # 3 El Zegri

tam R09 #11 Mik Yelrow

Thanks buddy.
And how do you get set for your TRIFECTAS and EXACTAS?
In fact, I'm even having trouble finding a book that will provide me with Place Odds on the Greyhounds.
Could you let me know where you get set on those as well please?

Wesmip,
In the ************** example at one stage the bank doubled and was showing 26.9 % on TO.
And although the bank was never in trouble at any stage the profit and POT was quickly whittled down to more realistic figures.
One hopes that it doesnt go any lower but there can be no certainty.

Cheers
darky

OK then what would you say to a system that works two days a week has an ave. 3.5 bets/day on those days and returns 87% POT on win and 31% POT for the place?

I can't give it to you because it's not mine but if the originator so deems then it's yours. I'm not using it and never will, because I have a better one (far from having as big of a POT of course, I bet more often than that!)

Good luck.

lomaca,
I,d say that there were 3 possibilities.

1/ The system has been backdated and any future profit will be tenuous at best.

2/The system has not been used any any long period of time in real life.

3/ This is the best system that has been developed since racing began in the 1800,s

If 3 applies dont let it out of your sight for a second.

Only six months, so you might be right!
Good luck

With the ************** selections up to today there were 132 selections at outlay $75 a daily bet .The profit to this point is $216 or average daily profit of $1.63
The starting bank was $5000 and allows for a 67 straight loss ratio.

I dont think one will make their fortune with this one and frankly a waste of effort.

However it has beaten any commercial system I,ve ever tested and I,ve tested hundreds.

Cheers
darky

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People can make more then 4% long term .. that was my only point. THe good systems are not made commercial.