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Paddy 21st October 2004 05:55 AM

Latest market movement:

Selection Now Was

STARCRAFT $3.00 $3.25
GRAND ARMEE $4.75 $4.50
ELVSTROEM $5.00 $4.00
SAVABEEL $9.00 $17.00
ELEGANT FASHION $11.00 $11.00
REGAL ROLLER $13.00 $13.00
FIELDS OF OMAGH $16.00 $13.00
KING'S CHAPEL $21.00 $21.00
OUR EGYPTIAN RAINE $21.00 $34.00
DELZAO $34.00 $26.00
PAOLINI $41.00 $26.00
NATURAL BLITZ $101.00 $67.00
MISS POTENTIAL $151.00 $126.00


moeee 21st October 2004 08:59 AM

Mo the weather man reporting for duty.
To those who have any interest in Fields of Omaugh.Remember what happenned last year.Paid about $7 but you could have got $20 two days before.Suggest you take the $16 now,in case it ********es down tomorrow.

Seeker11 21st October 2004 09:46 AM

Quote:
On 2004-10-21 09:59, moeee wrote:
Mo the weather man reporting for duty.
To those who have any interest in Fields of Omaugh.Remember what happenned last year.Paid about $7 but you could have got $20 two days before.Suggest you take the $16 now,in case it ********es down tomorrow.



Straight from the Bureau of Meteorology, forcast for Melbourne for the next couple of days

Friday A shower or two developing.
Min 14 Max 24

Saturday Showers.
Min 13 Max 18



_________________
may the horse be with you

Seeker

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umrum 21st October 2004 11:05 AM



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Matilda 21st October 2004 03:17 PM

Elegent Fashion
Starcraft
Elvstroem
FOO (if D.Nikolic is not riding - he is injured)else, Our Egyptian Raine/Grand Armee

Not against Nikolic but see where Mummify ended in C.Cup?

Even Stevens 21st October 2004 10:19 PM

6 ELVSTROEM
13 SAVABEEL
7 STARCRAFT
4 FIELDS OF OMAGH

purpleheart68 21st October 2004 11:04 PM

If you back Elvstroem you will do your dough.It won't run a place.Horses that win Cox Plates are set specifically THAT race,and do not come via the Caulfield Cup.I have a high opinion of this horse as my previous posts will vindicate,even when I kept tipping it last time in ,and a certain poster kept calling it a cat.The 2 horses that have been specifically aimed at this race are FOO and Starcraft,and to a lesser extent Grand Armee.They are the only REAL chances,unless you care to listen to G.Rodgerson regards Savabeel.IMO Starcraft is a lay down misere,just depends on the ride.

Geez 21st October 2004 11:37 PM

Grand Armee
King's Chapel
Savabeel
Starcraft

Paddy 22nd October 2004 12:05 AM

Current fixed odds market:

No. Selection Win Place
007 Starcraft $3.00 $1.50
006 Elvstroem $4.00 $1.60
001 Grand Armee $5.00 $1.75
013 Savabeel $9.00 $3.00
010 Elegant Fashion $11.00 $3.00
003 Regal Roller $13.00 $4.00
004 Fields of Omagh $17.00 $4.60
011 Our Egyptian Raine $21.00 $4.00
008 King's Chapel $26.00 $6.00
009 Delzao $34.00 $7.25
002 Paolini $41.00 $9.25
005 Natural Blitz $101.00 $21.00
012 Miss Potential $151.00 $26.00


Paddy 22nd October 2004 12:06 AM

Latest market movement:

No. Selection Now Was
007 Starcraft $3.00 $3.00
006 Elvstroem $4.00 $5.00
001 Grand Armee $5.00 $4.75
013 Savabeel $9.00 $9.00
010 Elegant Fashion $11.00 $11.00
003 Regal Roller $13.00 $13.00
004 Fields of Omagh $17.00 $16.00
011 Our Egyptian Raine $21.00 $21.00
008 King's Chapel $26.00 $21.00
009 Delzao $34.00 $34.00
002 Paolini $41.00 $41.00
005 Natural Blitz $101.00 $101.00
012 Miss Potential $151.00 $151.00


syllabus23 22nd October 2004 06:16 AM

1) Regal Roller
2) Starcraft
3) Elvstroem

feather 22nd October 2004 09:53 AM

Starcraft
Savabeel
Grand Armee
Elegant Fashion

Church22 22nd October 2004 10:25 AM

No one has gone near Our Egyptian Raine..

I think its a fantastic chance for a place.. and could even win it with a good sit.. down in weight and good jockey..


xptdriver 22nd October 2004 12:03 PM

Gday All...

Sticking my neck out here so it will probably get chopped. Ah well thats racing tho..

I think Starcraft is over rated and consequently over bet. It may well win the Plate but not with my money. When Elegant Fashion was running around here I made nice money on her, and I see no need to jump off. I would have thought Elvis was a special but for the going back in distance. Gai has done the right thing with Grand Armee and kept a low profile. As another poster mentioned Our Egyptian Raine hsn't been mentioned, she won well last week and is a good chance a place. The unkown is Paolini. Summing up I like:

10 Elegant Fashion
6 Elvstroem
11 Our Egyptian Raine
1 Grand Armee

with the rider of watch Paolini.

having said that I could very well miss the winner, it is a verey difficult race.

mug punta 22nd October 2004 01:12 PM

Well churchy we are on different wave lengths again. I dont know how you give Our Egyptian Raine any hope but good luck to ya. He'll probly come out and do a PICKETT!!

I only think there are 3 winning hopes
1- Elvestrom. With so much pace in the race this will be a war of attrition. Any horse that is a bit of a squib will be found out.
That was a gutsy win last week, and most horses would have let Makybe go straight past them.

2- Elegant Fashion. world class, loves the 200om. Has been set ONLY for this race by a super trainer.

3- Starcraft. The up and comer. Just a bit concerned that he isnt quite a 2000m horse. Dont worry about all this rubbish that he will get to far back. Boss is a super rider and will put him into the race, no problems, but I just wonder if the last 200 is a knock em down war that he can go past Elvestrom

For my tri's I will be throwing in Regal Roller, flying but will struggle the last 200m to hold on.
Savabeel, who may run ok with the light weight.
Grand Armee, may plug on for the place but I dont think can win.
Roughie is Natural Blitz but only if the rain has not come by that stage.
Good luck to all having a bet.

Seeker11 22nd October 2004 01:57 PM

I think it would be easier to say who won't win but here are my selections for the Cox Plate:

Elegant Fashion
Grand Armee
Starcraft
Elvestrom
Savabeel

No surpises if FOO RR or OER salute either...
As for betting I might have to leave this race alone

Chuck 22nd October 2004 03:53 PM

Starcraft
Elvstroem
Fields of Omagh
Grand Armee
Regal Roller

Matilda 22nd October 2004 04:40 PM

Listened to MOEEE to pick out from the hat and guess who I have got...Grand Armee. Not once but consecutive 3 times!!!. That is when I bet Runyon to win at 33/1 years back when he was on drugs. Won 12K+ on that race. Should I bet on G.Armee this race?.

Have change my selection now to

Grand Armee, Elvstroem, Field Of Omagh, Our Egyptian Raine.

Eliminated EF (all placing were soft placing) and Starcraft (Barrier 1 and Balmuse who finish back in the C.Cup breezed thru him and he can't even catch Mummify and G.Armee in Yalumba)

Quinella on G.Armee, Elvs and OER...

moeee 22nd October 2004 05:23 PM

Hard to say this without sounding rude to you Matilda,but judging on your position in the comp. leader board,I reckon the hats gotta be worth a try.
Tell you what.I'll have $10 on it as well.
And was that 3 times out of 3 tries!

Matilda 22nd October 2004 05:38 PM

Yes---3 out of 3.

Go Grand Armee...

dundas lane 22nd October 2004 06:00 PM

Had my first shekel on him back in May.

Since that time, I've backed him again on seven different occasions; I'll probably have another "go" tomorrow.

He got out to silly odds; ($3.40), before the Derby last Autumn when they all said he couldn't win. They're saying the same things again!

Hardest to beat; perhaps only bad luck.

Good punting.


dundas lane.......






smidgin 22nd October 2004 07:21 PM

Grand Armee
Regal Roller
Elegant Fashion
Starcraft

Raw Instinct 22nd October 2004 07:24 PM

Starcraft
Elvstroem
Paolini
Fields of Omagh

kiwiz 22nd October 2004 08:28 PM

Kings Chapel EW

maverick1993 22nd October 2004 08:41 PM

Delzao
King's Chapel
Elegant fashion
Starcraft

Mark 22nd October 2004 08:52 PM

With all the talk of a speed battle, most jockeys are saying that they will sit back and swoop at the end. If Regal Roller can get a soft lead, with the rest watching each other, he might just be able to pinch this. We'll know after about 600m.

Paddy 22nd October 2004 10:46 PM

Current fixed odds market:

No Selection Win Price Place Price

007 STARCRAFT $3.50 $1.55
006 ELVSTROEM $4.00 $1.70
001 GRAND ARMEE $5.00 $1.85
013 SAVABEEL $9.00 $3.00
010 ELEGANT FASHION $10.00 $3.25
003 REGAL ROLLER $11.00 $3.50
004 FIELDS OF OMAGH $19.00 $4.50
011 OUR EGYPTIAN RAINE $21.00 $4.00
008 KING'S CHAPEL $26.00 $6.00
009 DELZAO $34.00 $7.25
002 PAOLINI $51.00 $11.00
005 NATURAL BLITZ $101.00 $15.00
012 MISS POTENTIAL $151.00 $26.00


Paddy 22nd October 2004 10:58 PM

Latest market movement:

No Selection Now Was

007 STARCRAFT $3.50 $3.00
006 ELVSTROEM $4.00 $4.00
001 GRAND ARMEE $5.00 $5.00
013 SAVABEEL $9.00 $9.00
010 ELEGANT FASHION $10.00 $11.00
003 REGAL ROLLER $11.00 $13.00
004 FIELDS OF OMAGH $19.00 $17.00
011 OUR EGYPTIAN RAINE $21.00 $21.00
008 KING'S CHAPEL $26.00 $26.00
009 DELZAO $34.00 $34.00
002 PAOLINI $51.00 $41.00
005 NATURAL BLITZ $101.00 $101.00
012 MISS POTENTIAL $151.00 $151.00


shaven 23rd October 2004 01:07 AM

Savabeel **
Grand Armee
Kings Chapel
Elvstroem

blinkerz 23rd October 2004 01:47 AM

no. 3 Regal Roller
no. 10 Elegant Fashion
no. 7 Starcraft
no. 2 Paolini



bl4dez 23rd October 2004 02:39 AM

REGAL ROLLER
ELVSTROEM
STARCRAFT
GRAND ARMEE

Hammers 23rd October 2004 07:37 AM

For those tipping Regal Roller, don't forget Miss Potential is in the race. RR will be wishing he was back running a cushy 1400-1600 at Caulfield as they pass the school at MV. Sprinter milers simply never win this race.

Either Starcraft or Grand Armee should win with Paolini a smoky.


Paddy 23rd October 2004 08:03 AM

Track good, all starting.

goldmember 23rd October 2004 09:16 AM

GRAND ARMEE e/w *
STARCRAFT
REGAL ROLLER
OUR EGYPTIAN RAINE

wasgoner 23rd October 2004 10:39 AM

#4 FIELDS OF OMAGH
#1 GRAND ARMEE
#10 ELEGANT FASHION
#13 SAVABEEL

thefanatic 23rd October 2004 10:52 AM

No 6 Elvstroem
No 7 Starcraft
No 9 Delzao
No 1 Grand Armee

Paddy 23rd October 2004 02:15 PM

Final fixed odds market:

No. Selection Win Place
007 Starcraft $3.75 $1.75
006 Elvstroem $4.00 $1.75
001 Grand Armee $5.50 $2.10
010 Elegant Fashion $9.00 $2.50
013 Savabeel $9.00 $3.00
003 Regal Roller $12.00 $3.75
004 Fields of Omagh $19.00 $4.50
008 King's Chapel $26.00 $6.00
011 Our Egyptian Raine $26.00 $4.00
009 Delzao $41.00 $7.25
002 Paolini $51.00 $11.00
005 Natural Blitz $126.00 $17.50
012 Miss Potential $126.00 $21.00


Raw Instinct 23rd October 2004 02:44 PM

I just cannot rate any of those horses with Savabeel winning that race sorry but that is average we are talking about a horse that barely beat an average field in sydney last start I love Starcraft but he isnot that great got a good run but was not good enough none of them were. All I can say is that this makes horse racing here in australia look extremely average.


Northerly 23rd October 2004 05:22 PM

I think you're right Raw.
I don't like to bag our Racing but I backed Savabeel in the Champion Stks but gave him no hope today. I guess the 9.5kg FOO had to give him told in the straight.
Also, the fields were average today.
Best fields this Spring were on Caulfield Guineas day.

jimmyc_dogs 23rd October 2004 08:19 PM

i just cant see how the jockey on elvstroum could let him get so far back, he led all the way in the caulfield cup (2400m) why couldnt he be leading or atleast mid field in todays race (2040m), he was basically at the tail with no chance..........

although i did see him begin to fly down the outside only to be blocked by the jockey wearing orange colours..........

still im a little poorer tonight, and very dissapointed :sad:

jimmy


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