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Stix 11th October 2005 02:44 PM

He is out.........
 
Confectioner is Out ! :(

Sportz 11th October 2005 02:58 PM

Okay, I think this is the final field:

1. Mummify 57kg
2. Razkalla 55kg
3. Fight Your Corner 54.5kg
4. Eye Popper 54kg
5. Plastered 54kg
6. Carte Diamond 53kg
7. Sir Dex 53kg
8. Stella Grande 52.5kg
9. Railings 52kg
10. Demerger 51.5kg
11. Dizelle 51.5kg
12. Hollow Bullet 51.5kg
13. Portland Singa 51.5kg
14. Vouvray 51.5kg
15. Wild Iris 51.5kg
16. Leica Falcon 50kg
17. El Segundo 49.5kg
18. Irish Darling 49.5kg
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19. Lachlan River 51.5kg
20. Natural Blitz 53kg
21. Bazelle 50.5kg

mecurial 11th October 2005 02:59 PM

There goes my hard earned. Carte Diamond, Eye Popper and the like better absolutely put in blinding performances on the weekend.

All this does it detract interest and credibility from the race.

brave chief 11th October 2005 03:10 PM

what a sh*t field
 
Sir Dex made it in at least. Could have been so much better, though.

I'm sure the hurdler is a genuine winning chance, unlike Confectioner of course.

I actually backed Binding & Wild Iris in pre-post betting. WI might want some rain but got to be some chance in that race now.

Matilda 11th October 2005 03:26 PM

No quality field...Any of you disagree?.
El fav, what has he got to be fav!?. Won the Yalumba?
Plastered 2nd fav!!! Done nothing in last 2 races.
Leica Falcon 3rd fav!? Won the Edge?
Railing....Dizelle...Vouvray....

Nothing impress me lah....

Sportz 11th October 2005 03:27 PM

Brave Chief,

Not saying he's going to win or anything, but don't let the fact that Carte Diamond's won over hurdles influence your thinking. Remember, Vintage Crop won a few over the jumps too. British racing is different to us. Over there, jumps racing isn't purely for horses which are slow on the flat.

In any case, at it's last start, Carte Diamond finished a good 2nd in the Ebor Hcp which is one of the best quality staying handicap races in Britain. I think he gave about 4kgs to the winner which is a pretty fair horse. It was a good performance. He's mainly here for the Melbourne Cup, but it wouldn't be a total shock to me if he ran well this Saturday.

Anyway, here's the latest betting from TAB Sportsbet:

EL SEGUNDO $3.40
PLASTERED $5.50
LEICA FALCON $6.50
RAILINGS $11.00
DIZELLE $12.00
VOUVRAY $13.00
SIR DEX $15.00
MUMMIFY $16.00
DEMERGER $17.00
LACHLAN RIVER (1E) $26.00
PORTLAND SINGA $26.00
WILD IRIS $26.00
CARTE DIAMOND $31.00
FIGHT YOUR CORNER $35.00
HOLLOW BULLET $51.00
BAZELLE (3E) $61.00
EYE POPPER $71.00
RAZKALLA $71.00
STELLA GRANDE $81.00
IRISH DARLING $101.00
NATURAL BLITZ (2E) $101.00

Duritz 11th October 2005 04:34 PM

Loses a bit without Confectioner. If El Segundo repeats his run of the other day, he wins. End of s-s-s-story.

Sportz 11th October 2005 04:47 PM

Most Caulfield Cup runners, indeed most Caulfield Cup winners come through the Turnbull Stks and/or the Yalumba Stks. Simply exempt the first 3 placegetters in both of those races and that would make things a lot fairer I think. Confectioner would have qualified from the Turnbull for a start, so he wouldn't have even needed to run last Saturday.

ijuandaQLD 11th October 2005 05:30 PM

CONFECTIONER DOESNT DESERVE A SPOT....It's the trainers fault for the horse not getting a spot in the field... the trainers know what it takes to get a horse into the cup it is their fault for not putting the horses in the right races. horses like el segundo and leica falcon may be in it but they r because their trainers knew if they won they would be exempt and if they didnt win they didnt mind not getting in the field whereas the waterhouse and hayes have a bitch about mr celebrity and confectioner not gettin in. it is purely their fault. i agree that the field is not of the class it could be but there is nobody to blame but the trainers. fair enough the stewards could have promoted the horses into the field but then others who have earnt the right to enter the field by using the selection process to their advantage are ****ed over

Tenacious Spirit 11th October 2005 07:01 PM

Its a hard race to assess in that you have to compare weight with quality.

The turnbull looks a better race to look at than the yalumba to me. In was a weird sort of race.
El segundo's run was flattering. The chances of him getting gimme rails runs in the C cup are slim. Perlin didn;t fire a shot, confectioners chances were thwarted, FOO wasn't fully fit. I'd prefer if they didn't run him (el segundo) and put him away maybe give him an autumn campaign and target him at next year c.cup.

Mummify if the rain stays away is gonna give this a big shake. Weak race he won last time, but it was a tough on pace effort - you know he can do it, he run second fastest caulfield cup in 2003. He is proven. Can;t see anything mummify beat (ie wild iris) turning the tables.

Always have liked sir dex and am going to stick with him.

Plastered is the other one. He'll run well.

Reckon Leica Falcon's run was better than El Segundo, but he did beat a bunch of plodders. Too early?

Dizelle.Don't think shes a chance. I have been baggin her the whole way. Am going to keep potting her unless there is a deluge.

The runner i am unsure of is railings. Maybe better suited in the M cup but not sure.

There was that plunge on demerger but again would have thought she was better over 3200.

Thats my summation.


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