I think that's the plan, and let's face it. One of the biggest races in Australia, who would you rather have your money on? Boss or Johns???

Yeah, I must admit I haven't really been a big Vouvray fan, but plenty of 'experts' are picking it, so I'm starting to look at it. At $15, it wasn't too bad I guess, but you'll probably be able to get $10 on the day, so I wouldn't touch that.

To be honest I love Vouvray as a Cups horse and I still wouldn't have taken the 15's about her she is very under appreciated by alot of punters and with a bit of luck some of the hype horses will be in there and jack the prices up for everything else.

I reckon she (VOUVRAY) will steal on of the drinking vessel races this year.
Should be a fair price too.

Caulfield Cup

1 MAKYBE DIVA (GB) (Lee Freedman) 7 m 58.0 [2.5] 02-Nov-2004 1st-G1-3200m Emirates-Melbourne Cup AUS
2= CHERRY MIX (FR) (Saeed Bin Suroor) 5 h 58.5 [0.5] 03-Oct-2004 2nd-G1-2400m Arc De Triomphe FR
2= NORSE DANCER (IRE) (David Elsworth) 6 h 58.5 [0.5] 23-Jul-2005 2nd-G1-2419m King George VI Stakes UK
4 BANDARI (IRE) (Mark Johnston) 7 h 58.0 wfa 18-Jun-2005 1st-G2-2400m Hardwicke Stakes UK
5 MUMMIFY (Lee Freedman) 6 g 57.0 1.0 15-May-2005 1st-G1-2000m SAI Cup SING
6= FIELDS OF OMAGH (David Hayes) 8 g 56.5 1.5 23-Oct-2004 2nd-G1-2040m W.S. Cox Plate AUS
6= GREYS INN (USA) (Mike de Kock) 5 h 56.5 1.5 24-Apr-2005 2nd-G1-2000m Queen Elizabeth II Cup HK
8= DIZELLE (John Hawkes) 4 m 51.5 2.5 30-Mar-2005 1st-G1-2400m AJC Oaks AUS
8= FIRST CHARTER (GB) (David Hayes) 6 g 55.5 2.5 18-Sep-2004 3rd-G1-2800m Irish St. Leger IRE
8= HOLLOW BULLET (John McArdle) 4 m 51.5 2.5 04-Nov-2004 1st-G1-2500m VRC Oaks AUS
8= PLASTERED (Lindsey Smith) 4 g 54.0 2.5 30-Oct-2004 1st-G1-2500m Victoria Derby AUS
8= SUPER KID (NZ) (John Moore) 6 g 55.5 2.5 30-May-2004 1st-$678,656-2400m Champions Chater Cup HK
8= XCELLENT (NZ) (Michael Moroney) 4 g 54.0 2.5 26-Dec-2004 1st-G1-2400m New Zealand Derby NZ
14 RAZKALLA (USA) (Saeed Bin Suroor) 8 g 55.0 3.0 26-Mar-2005 2nd-G1-2400m Dubai Sheema Classic UAE
15 FIGHT YOUR CORNER (GB) (Saeed Bin Suroor) 7 h 54.5 3.5 30-May-2005 1st-G2-3300m Henry II Stakes UK
16= DEMERGER (Danny O'Brien) 5 m 51.5 4.0 16-May-2005 1st-G1-3200m Adelaide Cup AUS
16= EYE POPPER (JPN) (Izumi Shimizu) 6 h 54.0 4.0 01-May-2005 3rd-$418,670-3200m Tenno Sho JPN
16= PORTLAND SINGA (NZ) (Neville McBurney) 5 m 51.5 4.0 13-Jun-2005 1st-G1-3200m Brisbane Cup AUS
16= SONGLARK (GB) (Saeed Bin Suroor) 6 g 54.0 4.0 19-Jun-2005 1st-LR-2400m Pontefract Castle Stakes UK
16= STELLA GRANDE (Lee Freedman) 4 g 52.5 4.0 26-Mar-2005 2nd-G1-2400m AJC Derby AUS
16= VOUVRAY (NZ) (Peter G Moody) 5 m 51.5 4.0 25-Jun-2004 1st-G1-2400m QLD Oaks AUS
16= WILD IRIS (Guy Walter) 5 m 51.5 4.0 14-Apr-2004 1st-G1-2400m AJC Oaks AUS
23= COUNT RICARDO (Stephen Theodore) 4 g 52.0 4.5 13-Nov-2004 1st-G2-2400m Sandown Classic AUS
23= ECONSUL (NZ) (Graeme Rogerson) 4 h 52.0 4.5 09-Oct-2004 1st-G1-1600m Caulfield Guineas AUS
23= IKE'S DREAM (John Hawkes) 5 m 51.0 4.5 18-Dec-2004 1st-G2-1600m Villiers Handicap AUS
23= IRISH DARLING (Tony Vasil) 4 m 49.5 4.5 07-May-2005 1st-G1-2031m Australasian Oaks AUS
23= PERLIN (NZ) (Graeme Rogerson) 6 g 53.5 4.5 28-May-2005 1st-G1-2200m Doomben Cup AUS
28= BATTLE MAIDEN (ZIM) (Grahame Begg) 6 m 50.5 5.0 03-Jul-2004 1st-G1-1600m Garden Province Stakes SAF
28= BAZELLE (NZ) (Paul Jenkins) 6 m 50.5 5.0 01-Jan-2005 1st-G1-3200m Auckland Cup NZ
28= CARTE DIAMOND (USA) (Brian Ellison) 5 h 53.0 5.0 06-Nov-2004 1st-$83,373-2400m November Stakes UK
28= DESERT WAR (Gai Waterhouse) 5 g 53.0 5.0 02-Oct-2004 1st-G1-1600m Epsom Handicap AUS
28= FANTASTIC LOVE (USA) (Saeed Bin Suroor) 6 h 53.0 5.0 06-Nov-2004 1st-G2-2500m Queen Elizabeth Stakes AUS
28= LACHLAN RIVER (NZ) (John Morrisey) 4 g 51.5 5.0 11-Jun-2005 1st-G1-2400m Queensland Derby AUS
28= MAHTOUM (Kim Waugh) 6 g 53.0 5.0 02-Apr-2005 1st-G1-3200m Sydney Cup AUS
28= NATURAL BLITZ (Doug Harrison) 6 h 53.0 5.0 04-Jun-2005 1st-G2-2400m O'Shea Stakes AUS
28= NEVIS (NZ) (David Payne) 4 m 49.0 5.0 03-Sep-2005 1st-G2-1600m Chelmsford Stakes AUS
28= SIR DEX (Gregory Hickman) 5 g 53.0 5.0 14-May-2005 1st-G2-2400m Prime Ministers Cup AUS


Melbourne Cup
1 MAKYBE DIVA (GB) (Lee Freedman) 7 m 58.0 [+2.0] $9,044,910 02-Nov-2004 1st-G1-3200m Emirates-Melbourne Cup AUS
2 WESTERNER (GB) (Elie Lellouche) 7 h 58.5 wfa $1,728,975 16-Jun-2005 1st-G1-4000m Ascot Gold Cup UK
3 CHERRY MIX (FR) (Saeed Bin Suroor) 5 h 58.5 wfa $898,643 03-Oct-2004 2nd-G1-2400m Arc De Triomphe FR
4 VINNIE ROE (IRE) 8H (Dermot Weld) 8 h 58.0 0.5 $1,660,209 02-Sep-2004 1st-G1-2800m Irish St. Leger IRE
5 BANDARI (IRE) (Mark Johnston) 7 h 58.0 0.5 $612,785 18-Jun-2005 1st-G2-2400m Hardwicke Stakes UK
6 YEATS (IRE) (Aidan O'Brien) 5 h 57.5 1.0 $631,742 03-Jun-2005 1st-G1-2400m Coronation Cup UK
7 MUMMIFY (Lee Freedman) 6 g 57.0 1.5 $4,184,020 17-Apr-2004 3rd-G1-3200m Sydney Cup AUS
8 GREYS INN (USA) (Mike de Kock) 5 h 56.5 2.0 $1,149,893 08-May-2004 1st-G2-2450m S A Derby SAF
9 DISTINCTION (IRE) (Michael Stoute) 7 g 56.5 2.0 $456,511 28-Jul-2005 1st-G2-3200m Lady O Goodwood Cup UK
10 SWEET STREAM (ITY) (John Hammond) 6 m 53.5 2.5 $723,622 12-Sep-2004 1st-G1-2400m Prix Vermeille Fouquet FR
11 SUPER KID (NZ) (John Moore) 6 g 55.5 3.0 $2,512,133 30-May-2004 1st-$678,656-2400m Champions Chater Cup HK
12 PLASTERED (Lindsey Smith) 4 g 54.0 3.0 $1,453,840 30-Oct-2004 1st-G1-2500m Victoria Derby AUS
13 HOLLOW BULLET (John McArdle) 4 m 51.5 3.0 $1,386,802 04-Nov-2004 1st-G1-2500m VRC Oaks AUS
14 DIZELLE (John Hawkes) 4 m 51.5 3.0 $688,040 30-Mar-2005 1st-G1-2400m AJC Oaks AUS
15 XCELLENT (NZ) (Michael Moroney) 4 g 54.0 3.0 $434,934 26-Dec-2004 1st-G1-2400m New Zealand Derby NZ
16 FIRST CHARTER (GB) (David Hayes) 6 g 55.5 3.0 $314,628 18-Sep-2004 3rd-G1-2800m Irish St. Leger IRE
17 RAZKALLA (USA) (Saeed Bin Suroor) 8 g 55.0 3.5 $992,916 26-Mar-2005 2nd-G1-2400m Dubai Sheema Classic UAE
18 SIMONAS (IRE) (Andreas Wohler) 7 h 55.0 3.5 $885,422 24-Oct-2004 2nd-G1-2400m Canadian International CAN
19 COLLIER HILL (GB) (Alan Swinbank) 8 h 55.0 3.5 $666,587 01-May-2005 1st-G2-2400m Gerling-Preis GER
20 FRANKLINS GARDENS (GB) (Mark Tompkins) 6 h 54.5 4.0 $280,559 13-May-2005 1st-G2-2800m Yorkshire Cup UK
21 FIGHT YOUR CORNER (GB) (Saeed Bin Suroor) 7 h 54.5 4.0 $267,958 30-May-2005 1st-G2-3300m Henry II Stakes UK
22 EYE POPPER (JPN) (Izumi Shimizu) 6 h 54.0 4.5 $2,197,945 01-May-2005 3rd-$418,670-3200m Tenno Sho JPN
23 PORTLAND SINGA (NZ) (Neville McBurney) 5 m 51.5 4.5 $774,700 13-Jun-2005 1st-G1-3200m Brisbane Cup AUS
24 VOUVRAY (NZ) (Peter G Moody) 5 m 51.5 4.5 $732,418 19-Mar-2005 3rd-G1-2400m Tancred Stakes AUS
25 DEMERGER (Danny O'Brien) 5 m 51.5 4.5 $674,000 16-May-2005 1st-G1-3200m Adelaide Cup AUS
26 STELLA GRANDE (Lee Freedman) 4 g 52.5 4.5 $604,175 26-Mar-2005 2nd-G1-2400m AJC Derby AUS
27 WILD IRIS (Guy Walter) 5 m 51.5 4.5 $585,460 14-Apr-2004 1st-G1-2400m AJC Oaks AUS
28 OSTANKINO (FR) (Elie Lellouche) 5 h 54.0 4.5 $395,710 10-Jul-2005 1st-G2-2800m Prix Maurice de Nieuil FR

VOUVRAY, VINNIE ROE. THE YEAR OF THE VEEEES!!!!!!

Vouvray

I would be happy to be proven wrong Luv2bet but I think Vinnie might just have had his chance last year geez that won cost me my biggest bet ever I have never been more confident even more so when all that rain came a tumbling.

Hope you guys can share with me info on Vouvray.
He has never race above 2400 before. Only won once out of 3 at 2400 and that was last year June at Eagle Farm.

Any opinion on Free at Last.
Like his run in Craiglee last up.

Matilda, VOUVRAY ran a slashing 4th in the CC last year and Peter Moody the trainer put her away after that with a view to this years cups. To give her time to mature. She won a Qld oaks over 2400m, which is a Group 1.
It looks like P Moody may have been right, as she seems to have come back better than ever.
Don't know a great deal about the other one sorry.