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xanadu 27th September 2007 04:50 PM

Whilst I am very concerned regarding the long-term viability of horse-racing in all affected states, I also harbour deep concerns in regards to some of the results in recent meetings.
The plethora of long-priced winners has astounded me and even after incisive form-study/review, the figures just don't add up!
I hope that some of the "battlers" in the industry will not attempt to extricate themselves from their own financial woes by depriving the betting public of a "fair go!"
Because......if some attempt to do so...then all industry players will see a lack of confidence in the product presented to them and they will "vote with their feet" and stop or at least diminish their betting activities-me included!
I'll leave it up to you-anyone else witnessed/suffered the apparent plethora of long-priced winners lately which appear to have no form credentials?

Cheers.

suds 27th September 2007 05:35 PM

yeah a shocker at bendigo today...my little rating system has never gone so bad!!

xanadu 6th October 2007 05:05 PM

Yeah suds, I know how you feel mate.
Isn't it an incredible coincidence that on the very weekend that the big "quaddie" promotion is launched the dividend for some lucky punter(s) amounted to $174,721.50NSW!
I'm certainly not suggesting anything other than it will generate massive publicity for a product currently being promoted in "wall-to-wall" advertisements in all forms of the media.....go figure............!
The authorities are desperate to stimulate betting turnover in the wake of the EI tragedy but let me ask you....at what cost to the hard-core, cynical everyday punters who, in reality, keep this industry ticking over!
I, personally, will be reviewing my betting activities to determine if it is worth my while to invest in a product which I am losing faith in as every day goes by(refer to an earlier post).
Any other disgruntled punters out there who may wish to express/share their views.

Cheers.

xanadu 11th October 2007 02:43 PM

Bendigo R5,

Did any form students have reservations regarding the riding tactics in this "race?"
The leading contenders go hard in front presenting a perfect opportunity for a "battling" rider to come from last to beat them all!!!
What about the rider in the red cap "cuddling" his mount to the line with no apparent intention of it finishing in the finish!
Come on....!!!!!!!!!!!!
The racing officials have let the betting public down badly and as I have said previously...they do so at their own peril!
They will only succeed in alienating the true betting public..ie..those punters who wager every day...when are they going to wake up?
As betting turnover diminishes due to a lack of confidence in the way racing is being handled who will be held responsible?
You figure it out!
I am disgusted!

xanadu 24th October 2007 04:55 PM

MR10,
As the commentator mused: "it was a 1200M race but the favourite must have covered 1600-1800m.
You figure it out..

Cheers.

crash 24th October 2007 05:05 PM

One country Jockey I used to know told me he made more money out of losing races than he ever did winning them!

xanadu 24th October 2007 05:20 PM

Yeah crash,

I have heard similar stories...there was an ****-jockey interviewed some years ago who admited he would "pull" horses up if the price/reward was right...!
When is an ICAC official going to be added to the steward's panel?
They do an exemplary job in HK!

Cheers.

xanadu 31st October 2007 02:55 PM

MR7,

Well what a coincidence....the first leg of the Quaddie(which has been promoted "ad nauseum" by the TAB, produces a long-shot winner at $23.2wNSW....go figure......!
That's fine but as I have stated on numerous occasions I also study jockeys, their riding styles and vigour shown etc.
Guess what?...if any other form student studied this aspect then they too would be very concerned with some of the rides of other hoops in this race which allowed Shinn on the eventual winner to gain a four lengths lead at the home turn.....come on.....get real!
I'm sure that the prospect of a large divvie will attract an increase in betting turnover from the general public......but at what longterm cost to the industry as the "professional" ranks depart due to dubious happenings?
I'll leave it up to you....!

Cheers.

xanadu 3rd November 2007 01:22 PM

Aaaaaah,

MR6 11 Sirmione WON $78.1w$12.6plNSW,
the "Practice Stakes" has lived down to it's reputation once again. Look at the recent form of the winner!
I ask the question: "Is this fair to the racing/punting public......!!!?"
I'll guarantee that the "Royalty of Racing" will not be required to provide an explanation for this dramatic form improvement.
You make your own mind up!

Cheers.

xanadu 3rd November 2007 02:55 PM

No wonder there is a continual "leaking" of the public's betting dollar away from racing, be it horses, dogs or the "red-hots" to other forms of gambling such as casino-style betting, scratchies, pokies..etc!
Roulette wheels, cards and betting chips cannot speak can they?
If the authorities think that such results as we have witnessed today, provide them with massive "feel-good" publicity then they are only fooling themselves and is only a short-term "fix!"
What about the times the big crowds aren't there and the industry relies on the everyday punters who are realistically the backbone of the horse-racing/wagering industry? If those punters' confidence has been undermined they may turn to other options....will they come back to racing?...I pose that question!

Cheers.


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