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Sportz 26th July 2006 11:10 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by crash
I understand basic exotics but not banker tri's. That's 1 x field x field isn't it?
Wouldn't that cost an arm and a leg? How do you work out the cost for the field size? And what is this 'roving' banker I've heard of? How does that work and cost?


The cost of a banker trifecta is: (the number of other selections) x (the number of other selections minus one)

So, if there is a field of 12, and you take one horse to win from the field, then you simply multiply 11 by 10. That equals $110 for a dollar unit.

A "roving" banker trifecta means that your selection only has to place, not win. The cost is 3 times as much as a regular banker trifecta.

crash 26th July 2006 11:31 AM

Thanks for that Sportz.

I've never been a big fan of exotics because of the TAB % takeout, so I don't know more than the basics. Interesting to know how to work out the costs though.

The tri would have to pay very well indeed, because I see that as $100 win bet for the banker tri. to beat, or a $300 place bet [?] or $150 ew bet for the rover tri. to beat :-))

Sportz 26th July 2006 12:00 PM

Well, like you, I also find it difficult to justify the expense. I always thought it was a bit strange to have one horse to win and the whole field for 2nd and 3rd. BUT when you see some of the ridiculously high dividends that Mav has won, it's incredible.

Stix 26th July 2006 12:26 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sportz
Well, like you, I also find it difficult to justify the expense. I always thought it was a bit strange to have one horse to win and the whole field for 2nd and 3rd. BUT when you see some of the ridiculously high dividends that Mav has won, it's incredible.
Or for an experiement - NSW flexi-betting is available - smaller outlay = smaller risk...... snag a couple of Mav sized divvy's and away you go..... maybe...

Sportz 26th July 2006 12:33 PM

I don't have a NSW Tab account. I was hoping that there was going to be some change eventually, so that you could do that on Unitab as well.

crash 26th July 2006 02:50 PM

Me too Sportz with stab.

maverick1993 27th July 2006 01:04 AM

I've never used the roving banker trifecta,,just to costly....

What works for me Crash is of course the banker trifecta,,but have a level stake..
say 150 ... in a race with 12 staters..
banker tri costs 110
so with the other 40 i'll have my banker with say my next 2 raters..
this 20x for 40...
depending on the banker selection..if you've selected a good price winner as your banker then you might go even wider ,,say 3 or even 4 selections for 2nd and 3rd....

you could even just go 1/2 for the banker field tri which would only cost you 55 (for 12 runners)and have a level stake of 100 .

when theres a large field then Stix is right..Nswtab is great for this as you can just take a percentage...i also like the Nswtab as they always underestimate our Qld horses down there...(starcraft started at 50.s ,, i/2 that on unitab) Dont tell clang and a few others were the same....

Interesting if you looked back on even just this thread and see how you'd have done ....,,,especially if you've rated the winning races 1,2,3 ..

crash 27th July 2006 02:02 PM

Thanks for that info. mav. I am indeed going to look back over my results to see what I have missed. I know there were some good tri's with some of my winners. Going to look into the tri. business generally, as someone is collecting and having fun [it appears you get a few goodies too] !!

Bombed out with a run of outs yesterday. Overdue I think. Only a couple today as very little time available for form study.

Thursday, July 27

TOWNSVILLE
r6/6 Annacristi
r8/8 Emmbowen

crash 28th July 2006 09:36 AM

Can I do 3 days without a winner ? :-))

Need some money for tomorrow, so a bit more effort here:

28 July

Ballarat [dead]
r1/1 Illustration
r8/7 Glebe Run
r9/5 Ballyrogan

Muswellbrook [dead]
r6/10 Folly Lane
r8/4 Sutton Rarju and 11 Danzego [backmarker from barrier 11 at odds]

crash 28th July 2006 04:31 PM

28 July

Ballarat
r1/1 Illustration $1.10w $1.20p !!!
r8/7 Glebe Run $2.20w $1.50p
r9/5 Ballyrogan $6.80w $2.10p

Muswellbrook
r6/10 Folly Lane
r8/4 Sutton Rarju $5w $1.80p
r8/11 Danzego [scr.]


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