thanks for that Chrome,

kind of what I imagined(interstate wise).

That's why I lean to local jockeys with experience at the track(mostly).

Here's some food for thought...

Dynamic Darren has had 180 rides on odds on favourites for a return of $181.40

Many of these wins were consecutive, so you could quite easily profit from all up betting.

Even picking and choosing between his favoured rides could spot you a nice return, even though they are odds on.

By stark contrast P J Harvey has had 156 rides on odds on favourites for a return of only $143.90

*These are rides at Metropolitan venues.

Yes, I reckon you have to weigh it up, between the horse and jockey strength.

I.E. Boss & Makybe, Beadman and Lonhro etc.

and allow for the away track penalty when looking at price.

Here's also some further info....

I posted a long time ago regarding the first up form of Darren, which continues to be profitable.

Horses coming off a spell which are not first starters....

653 rides
126 wins
19.30% SR
Profit $39.50
POT 6.05%

Now, let's restrict this to the powerful Hawkes Beadman combo

237 rides
50 wins
21.10% SR
Profit $47.10
POT 19.87%

Within poor prices, there's almost always an edge somewhere ;)

So first up Hawkes rides, rides over distance, odds on rides with a filter are ALL showing profit.

Beadman's Bet Busters :D

Incidentally, all Darren's Metropolitan track rides for the month of September...

57 rides
15 wins
26.32% SR
Profit $14.30
POT 25.09%

That's coming off a poor August of 21.13% SR and a 19.72% LOT.

He bounced back nicely.

July was in profit
June a slight loss
May a big loss
April in profit
March in profit
February profit
January loss

In fact all his rides this year only (since Jan) show a 4.31% POT with no added filters.

The last 6 years Group 1 race jockey premiership table

G Boss 42
D Beadman 26
D Oliver 25
D Nikolic 20
G Childs 19
C Munce 17
C Brown 15
Steven King 15
S Seamer 14
D Beasley 13
B Prebble 12
P Payne 12
J Cassidy 11
L Beasley 11
D Gauci 10
L Cassidy 10
P J Harvey 9
S W Arnold 8
K Mcevoy 7
N Rawiller 7
B York 6
C Williams 6
Shane Dye 6
C Newitt 5
H Bowman 5
J Ford 5
R M Quinn 5
S Baster 5
J Sheehan 4
N Callow 4
M Flaherty 3
M Rodd 3
P Mertens 3
D Dunn 2
G Colless 2
J S Whiting 2
M J Cahill 2
P King 2
S Katsidis 2
W J Hokai 2
A G Robinson 1
A Pattillo 1
A Spiteri 1
B Park 1
B Shinn 1
C Carmody 1
C K Harvey 1
C Lindop 1
Chris Munce 1
D J Staeck 1
D Mclellan 1
D R Miller 1
D Taggart 1
G Duffy 1
G Lynch 1
Greg Childs 1
J Benbow 1
J Bowditch 1
J Taylor 1
Jim Cassidy 1
K Forrester 1
L Camilleri 1
L Currie 1
M De Montfort 1
M Gatt 1
M J Walker 1
M J Zahra 1
M Pumpa 1
P B Farrell 1
P Gatt 1
P Hammersley 1
R Mcleod 1
R S Dye 1
S Arnold 1
S Galloway 1
S J Miller 1
W A Pike 1
W Treloar 1
Z Purton 1

I'm not too sure what's going on with Bossy, the last few months apart from Racing To Win have been well below his normal par.

Chrome,
very interesting figures,thank you.
Quite obvious why Bossie gets all the "plum" rides in G1's.

Poor value Darren, I think not.

Beadman rides on Good tracks rated 100 by Techform

248 rides
Win Return 273.90
Place Return 252.92

Win Profit 25.90
Place Profit 4.92

Win POT 10.44%
Place POT 1.98%

This is just at TAB price ;)

Another myth busted!

The poor value comes from the over rated and over hyped horses which do not have the class to warrant being so short. Sticking to the genuine class horses sees Darren's superior skill blend to a nice profit.

The maximum win dividend is $7.20 and it does not include any rides in October yet.

So we are left with...

Techform 100 on Good tracks - profitable
Hawkes rides first up from a spell - profitable
Odds On rides with one filter - profitable
Rides over greater than 2200m - profitable

Just lay what's left :D

Beadman------ Caufield------ ark,ark, hee hee ark, ark ark!

the boy had a day out, thats for sure, as did one d dunn, a jock that i definately dont rate... b.ugger