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ubetido 31st March 2008 03:17 PM

Great thanks Pixie much appreciate your thorough explanation thankyou.

Cheers
Ubetido

crash 31st March 2008 03:17 PM

Just on another point. If the system is making 80% POT, what help does the system actually need? Jezz, if I had a system with an 80% POT. I certainly wouldn't need any 'help'.

There does seem to be a bit of a problem though as already pointed out, some of the claimed winners don't fit the rules. No offense meant but is this thread attention seeking or about a system with a genuine 80% pot? Hmmm.

It takes a lot to get past the laugh test here in this forum because it's full of sharp cookies. As the rules go, I just can't see it. That's only my humble opinion of course from many years [almost 40yrs] of being a street wise punter, not a gulible one.

crash 31st March 2008 03:53 PM

Average price per winner (return divided by 31) is 4/1
Highest priced winners 11.30 - 9.80 - 9.30

For last start winners the system is getting an 'average' of $5 SP and up to $11.30?

Edited. Flaming.

the sundance kid 31st March 2008 05:36 PM

Would it be a fair assumption if...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by crash
Average price per winner (return divided by 31) is 4/1
Highest priced winners 11.30 - 9.80 - 9.30

For last start winners the system is getting an 'average' of $5 SP and up to $11.30? Where from, some bookie in La La land? The runner would have to be well up in weight or class to get those sort of odds rewards. Ho, ho, ho.


Those prices you quoted mate are actual Unitab dividends for the winners
Ive already listed. Look at the races (if you know how to) and you will see
that they fit into the rules I outlined.

the sundance kid 31st March 2008 05:42 PM

Would it be a fair assumption...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by crash
Just on another point. If the system is making 80% POT, what help does the system actually need? Jezz, if I had a system with an 80% POT. I certainly wouldn't need any 'help'.

There does seem to be a bit of a problem though as already pointed out, some of the claimed winners don't fit the rules. No offense meant but is this thread attention seeking or about a system with a genuine 80% pot? Hmmm.

It takes a lot to get past the laugh test here in this forum because it's full of sharp cookies. As the rules go, I just can't see it. That's only my humble opinion of course from many years [almost 40yrs] of being a street wise punter, not a gulible one.


My only request of the forum was "how do I get more bets" - thats all.
The winners DO fit the rules. Tribal Warrior and Cafe Bar were personal choice
selections. If you read that part of my post again I referred to adding
others. But you have already shown you dont know much about reading?
40 years of being a street wise punter. Hmmm. Youre nearly as old as me,
sonny jim???

the sundance kid 31st March 2008 05:43 PM

Would it be a fair assumption...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ubetido
Hi Sundance

Forumites will mostly knock anything that touts high win returns. This maybe from there own experience and have a conservative and cautious outllook. Nothing wrong with that mind you as things can go belly up just when you thought you had found that delicate balance of filters to give you good returns.

I would just follow what you are doing and if it is 80% keep going and keep profiting while you can and keep looking for a second income stream from perhaps a different set of rules which also produces success.

For example you currently operate on 1000m-1200m races

Well how do the 1400m-1600m races look perhaps different or similar filters may produce good results.

Cheers
Ubetido

Thanks

the sundance kid 31st March 2008 05:50 PM

Would it be a fair assumption if..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by place2win
Hi Sundance,
a little confused, your post (6) claimed Tribal Warrior and Cafe Bar as a profitable weekend (prior to your listing rules at post 8).
WA tracks were not included (is this an oversight)
Tribal Warrior ran at Ascot (WA) Not LSW,(122), Distance ran was 1400?
Cafe Bar Not LSW, (133), Not won 2 this preparation?
I tend to agree with crash and others, there is little scope to expand when
expecting a THIRD WIN in current preparation. Silver&Sands idea of expanding to other distances (maybe 1300-1400) would give you a wider scope (maybe a reduction in POT%) and a greater selection process. Which in the long term may increase return.
Good luck

Thanks for responding mate - Those two winners were not part of my system.
If you follow the thread, you will see where Ive actually detailed the
selections for this month so far. I did not include those two winners did I.
Reason - not in the system. The original post referring to those two winners
(Tribal Warrior and Cafe Bar) suggested that they were additions.
Overall, the selections for 2007 provide good returns simply because people like Crash overlook horses that have won two out of their last three -
they think oh well it cant win again and look elsewhere - hence the good
returns and good dividends.
As someone once said to be a successful punter, you have to do something
different and not follow the crowd.

Anyway Ill keep backing them - I bet some of you will too. But I doubt
if Ill hear about it.

Cheers mate - thanks again for responding -:cool: s k

crash 31st March 2008 06:16 PM

Flaming. Have three days holiday.

crash 31st March 2008 06:49 PM

Flaming.

crash 31st March 2008 06:59 PM

Flaming.


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