similar bad day for me under $20 (-$81.25).

Over $20 brought it back to a profit though of $4.25(less then 1 unit). I urge you to go up to $50 as you are taking advantage of the fav-long shot bias.

What was your SR today, how many runners did you have, i am wondering what different runners we have under $20 as my loss in that range was almost double yours.

I know i have only done this for 2 days but i was looking at my selections and the price range and trying to work out what was better 1) fixed stake 2) fixed liability 3) fixed payout and i found fixed liability would be better, i also looked at the price range and it may be just the selections i am producing but i found i had a better reasult with runners under $10.

My first days result would have been over $380 instead of $190 and yesterday would have been a profit of $90 instead of a loss.

I am not trying to change your approach just show you what i have seen in 2 days, maybe this will not hold up but i am going to give it a try.

This is the basic criteria i had for today
Lay to a liability of 100 units any runner that meets the rules stated on the first page but i only layed runners under $8

Selections 143
Wins 115
Accidents 28
SR 80.41%

Profit 465.75 units


I personaly was laying to a liability of $4 and made $18.59 profit after com

Shaun,

Nice work placing your own twist on it.... Very nice profit.

I hope it keeps going well for you.

Keep analysing it over time and go with whatever seems to work for you.

You know what i find funny, betfair is supposed to offer better prices yet between us we are able to lay hundreds of horses at below tote odds at 2 different price ranges.

Selections 93
Wins 73
Accidents 20
SR 78.49%
loss 83 units

Shaun, have been following this with interest, can you identify your
accidents.
Utilizing the Betfair website which lists the three TAB prices plus their own.
I ran this to-day and came up with 73 selections (62 winners / 11 losers)
My losers were:
Sun R1/4 Trinders Lane BF Lay @ 6.8
Cas R1/7 Super Geoff BF Lay @ 7.2
Sun R2/4 Flying Minstrel BF Lay @ 3.65
Cas R2/9 Wilfull Lad BY Lay @ 4.1
Sun R5/4 Red Ferments BF Lay @ 5.7
CanR4/3 Key Symbol BF Lay @ 3.55
Cas R5/2 Light Tan BF Lay @ 2.2
Graf R5/4 Lady Tingle BF Lay @ 7.4
Kal R3/4 Le Flirt BF Lay @ 5.9
Sun R9/3 Jive Queen BF Lay @2.8
Kal R5/4 Sword Master BF Lay @ 2.4
This resulted in a profit of 20.4 units (Max Lay price 7.95)
If betting to liability of $100 result was a profit of $438
As a lot of the bets are subject to " cents " at time of betting
sometimes we are on a winner sometimes a loser.
Maybe it all boils down to where you derive your price at bet time.

AUS / SCst (AUS) 18th Jul / 09:50 R1 1800m Mdn 5. Dellblu 6.4
AUS / SCst (AUS) 18th Jul / 10:20 R2 1000m 2yo 10. Snip n Duck 3.1
AUS / SCst (AUS) 18th Jul / 10:55 R3 1000m 2yo 4. Flying Minstrel 3.35
AUS / Seym (AUS) 18th Jul / 11:05 R2 1200m 2yo 5. Invincible You 7
AUS / Graf (AUS) 18th Jul / 11:10 R1 1600m Mdn 2. Rodeo Playboy 7.2
AUS / Cast (AUS) 18th Jul / 12:00 R3 1400m Mdn 3. Eumeralla Quest 4
AUS / SCst (AUS) 18th Jul / 12:05 R5 1200m Hcap 4. Red Ferments 6.4
AUS / Graf (AUS) 18th Jul / 12:20 R3 2350m Hcap 11. Pankratov 5.9
AUS / Cast (AUS) 18th Jul / 12:35 R4 3800m Stpl 3. Key Symbol 3.55
AUS / SCst (AUS) 18th Jul / 12:40 R6 1000m CL1 9. Tamose 7.6
AUS / Canb (AUS) 18th Jul / 12:45 R4 1900m Hcap 3. Zate 3.1
AUS / Cast (AUS) 18th Jul / 13:10 R5 1400m Hcap 2. Light Tan 2.26
AUS / SCst (AUS) 18th Jul / 13:15 R7 1200m CL2 7. Stallone 7.8
AUS / Seym (AUS) 18th Jul / 13:25 R6 1300m Hcap 2. Overtake 3.15
AUS / Cast (AUS) 18th Jul / 13:45 R6 2000m Hcap 5. Blevics Belle 3.6
AUS / Cast (AUS) 18th Jul / 14:20 R7 1200m Hcap 1. Starshot 2.58
AUS / SCst (AUS) 18th Jul / 14:25 R9 1400m CL1 3. Jive Queen 2.9
AUS / Canb (AUS) 18th Jul / 14:30 R7 1280m CL1 2. Paramount Pete 7
AUS / Kalg (AUS) 18th Jul / 15:25 R5 1400m Hcap 4. Sword Master 2.5
AUS / Kalg (AUS) 18th Jul / 16:05 R6 1100m Hcap 3. Wocket In A Pocket 5.8

Hi Shaun,

Please excuse my ignorance, but do you need something other than the software mentioned above to enable this type of betting? If so what is it and how would one go about it?

Very interesting thread and any help would be appreciated.