er...hem!!

Octennial ran nowhere.

Natural Blitz ran nowhere.

Just like last week, and the week before that, and the week before .........

I say again, have the decency to POST THE YTD RECORDS. Losing tips are NOT free, they are very, very expensive.

Dont know where those 2 came from but they weren,t the newsletter tips.
BLUE SUTTARB(race 5 h 1 r.hill 5th at 8/1.

ALFONSO(e.farm.r 8 h 2 $5.60/2.20.

Cheers.Darky.

11/10/03.

Darkydog, yes a good result again LL with Alfonso, just as a matter of interest have you monitered LL tips over time?? just wondered how the Newsletter Tips fared compared to the Forum Tips???

PARTYPOOPER.Only monitored the newsletter tips.
FROM 30/8 to 11/10/03.
14 bets/4 winners= 28.5%.
oulay flat stakes $280 nett $452 .P.O.T 161%.
av price of winners 5.65/1.
email me ************************************************** and i will tell you who is the best tipster i have ever seen AND ITS NOT ME.
Cheers.
darky.

I think that should clear up a few things for the good DR.
You've had a go at Lil, Mark and various others including myself, without considering the FULL facts.

How about posting something constructive, or is that beyond the realms of possibility???

Give up the fags DOC thats a bad cough you have at the start of your post

As I see it there are 2 sources of LL tips available in this forum - those posted by management (oops! I mean Lucky Lil :wink: ) in the forum itself, and those available by being part of an email distribution list (great marketing strategy). As far as I'm concerned if someone is going to take the trouble to keep to-date stats, let's see the full picture, not half. Otherwise don't bother.

I'll type this slowly so that even those with an axe to grind can arrive at a modicom of understanding.

Lucky Lil's 'free' tips as posted to this forum show a long term LOSS. They are not FREE - they are very, very EXPENSIVE. The idea that Lucky Lil's tips generate a profit is not supported by a shred of evidence outside of transient one-time posters with dubious pedigree.

Surely it is a simple (and responsible) exercise to post YTD results (with the tips) - and if the tips were profitable why in the world would you not publish that fact?

The answer is blindingly obvious.

G,day Paddy.And i am just the bloke to do it if anyones interested.
Previously up to the 30/8/03 i have only given them a cursory glance but like i did with AHJAYS they became a fascination for me.
Its no skin off my shoulders to give you all a monthly update or for that matter any update you like.
Since i started using them i have made good money from them.And i thank LIL for that (whoever she/he might be).
If their managements tips under some sort of guise then i would think that they would have a better time frame than I and it would be no problem for them to give you an idea.I MYSELF WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THAT.
In the meantime I can only go from the 30/8/03.
Anyone out there interested in updates.
Warmest regards.
Darkydog.

Here we go again :roll:

Let's get to the facts, as usual they seem to get lost in transit.

I searched and searched and searched and could not find a single one-time poster re Lil's Tips.

There are two sets of tips, one set in the weekly newsletter and one set on the forum.

No claims are made by Lil regarding the loss or profit of those tips.

The congratulations from many posters come from the tips in the newsletter which are very good and showing a profit regardless of anything else.

Both sets are FREE and available for use or otherwise.

The forum tips that Lil has supplied would have SAVED you a bundle if you look at her "NOT VALUE" horses.

It's up to the individual to use the tips in any way he/she sees fit.

It's very easy to criticize and say:

"Octennial ran nowhere.

Natural Blitz ran nowhere.

Just like last week, and the week before that, and the week before ......... "

What about Dorky?
You were told it was no value and it ran accordingly.
What about So Assertive?
It didn't win either on Lil's advice.

So what do we have with regard to the FORUM tips for the last month?
This belies the good Dr's statement....

Last Saturday
BET - Octennial (lost)
BET - Natural Blitz (lost)

LAY - Dorky (SAVED MONEY or BETFAIR???)

4th October
BET - Shower of Roses (won) $3.00
BET - The Big Chill (lost)

LAY - So Assertive (SAVED AGAIN or BETFAIR)

Did Lil lose this week or break even or profit - you decide!

27th September
BET - Classy Dane (lost)
BET - Ta Ta Tatiana (lost)

LAY - Fatoon (SAVED AGAIN or BETFAIR)

20th September
BET - Wayjo (won) $3.40
BET - Regal Summer (lost)

LAY - Casino Knight (won at odds on $1.80)

Total 8 win bets
$6.40 return
loss of 1.60 units

Total 4 lay bets
only one winner, so three from four LAYS successful.

So 6 from 12 BET/LAYS successful.

Not too shabby Dr.

[ This Message was edited by: Chrome Prince on 2003-10-13 13:57 ]