Chrome, we could certainly do that. But I was just worried that some people may not check in here until Friday or something and they miss out.

Sportz,

I've got an idea which is somewhat self-interested.

How about making Wednesday like a supplementary, after which you give people their best two scores out of the three meetings?

Cheers,

F

[QUOTE=Chrome Prince]CAULFIELD Race 6

1. HARDY STEELE $6.74
8. PEACE RULER $7.44
9. SHOW 'EM POWER $7.60
3. LORD OF THE PINES $8.91


Gday Chrome,

I agree wwith your thoughts up to LOP... I am having a problem putting a line thru him and am guessing about him... how far back have you gone to come up with a reliable rating for him.... curious is all...

Lets include wednesday

Hi xptdriver,

My ratings are basically calculated on overall class and last start performance.
I do not look at rating a horse on it's best run, as that can be long ago and have no relevance to today. The one thing that is not factored in, is a long break or first-up into the equation. He is basically thrown in as a first four chance, I think the other first three rated horses are lengths ahead - but you never really know.

Scratched already.

Thanks for that.

Gday All

time to chuck my 2 bobs worth in :

Race 6 Caulfield
1 $5.5 HARDY STEELE
8 $7.3 PEACE RULER
9 $7.3 SHOW 'EM POWER
6 $9.8 LIMITED IMPULSE
7 $13.1 CANNYOPRA

Race 8 Caulfield
3 $4.2 EVASION
9 $5.6 PARTY PIE
1 $7.5 BONDY
2 $7.5 CAPADAN
7 $10.0 COMMAND 'N CONQUER

Hi Guys

Give them strength.

RAce 6
Hardy Steele - $3.20
Mr Magoo - $6.00
Jar Jar Binks - $8.00
Limited Impulse - $13.00
Cannyopra - $13.00


Race 8
Evasion - $3.20
Capadan - $4.70
Party Pie - $6.70
Command N Conquer - $6.90
Bondy - $15.60

Good Punting

Hey guys

Race 6 Silvan Plte.
4. Mr Magoo $3.70
1. Hardy Steele $4.20
8. Peace Ruler $7.50
7. Cannyopra $8.20
11. Jar Jar Binks $10.00

Race 8 City Of Glen Eira Hcp.
2. Capadan $4.50
3. Evasion $5.10
4. You Little Beaut $8.00
1. Bondy $8.50
9. Party Pie $9.20

1 Hardy steele 3.00
11 Jar Jar Binks 5.50
6 Limited Impulse 5.50
4 Mr Magoo 7.50
10 Flying Ed 10.00

3 Evasion 2.50
9 Party Pie 4.50
2 Capadan 7.00
4 You Little Beut 8.00
1 Bondy 10.00

Final Scratchings are:

RACE 6
5 Call Me Syd
12 Gifted Ground
13 Midnight Storm
14 Grand Legend

RACE 8
7 Command 'N Conquer
10 Special Scene

If any of you want to make changes to your ratings to account for scratchings, please feel free.

RACE 6

4. Mr Magoo $3.6
1. Hardy Steele $4.0
7. Cannyopra $6.2
9. Show 'em Power $6.5
8. Peace Ruler $7.5


RACE 8

3. Evasion $3.1
9. Party Pie $3.4
2. Capadan $7.0
4. You Little Beaut $8.0
6. Many Are Called $10.0

Race 6:
Hardy Steele $4.30
Mr. Magoo $5.20
Peace Ruler $6.50
Lord Of The Pines $8.60
Jar Jar Binks $11.50

Race 8
Evasion $3.00
Capadan $5.20
Party Pie $7.00
Many Are Called $9.40
Liquid Lunch $12.60

Ratings Challenge
 

Caulfield Race 6
1. Hardy Steele $5.80
7. Cannyopra $6.50
6. Limited Impulse $7.00
2. Firetaine $8.00
4. Mr. Magoo $8.40

Caulfield Race 8
6. Many Are Called $4.40
9. Party Pie $4.90
8. No High No Song $8.00
4. You Little Beaut $9.90
1. Bondy $11.00

Thanks

Selections Updated
CAULFIELD RACE 6 SILVAN PLATE 1400 M ($50000)
4 Mr. Magoo (4) $4.98
8 Peace Ruler (9) $5.94
1 Hardy Steele (15) $6.65
11 Jar Jar Binks (7) $8.37
2 Firetaine (NZ) (13) $9.17

CAULFIELD RACE 8 CITY OF GLEN EIRA HANDICAP 2000 M ($50000)
9 Party Pie (5) $3.83
3 Evasion (7) $3.91
1 Bondy (9) $4.89
2 Capadan (NZ) (1) $7.70
6 Many Are Called (2) $10.27

Selections updated after scratchings


Race 6
Hardy Steele - $3.00
Mr Magoo - $5.50
Jar Jar Binks - $7.50
Limited Impulse - $12.00
Cannyopra - $12.00

Race 8
Evasion - $2.90
Capadan - $3.30
Party Pie - $5.20
Bondy - $15.00
Many Are Called - $26.00

Good Punting

Not confident today. Lord Of The Pines was VERY tricky. I didn't know what to do with him. I probably should have just left him out altogether. Anyway, here's what I've got.

Race 6
01 HARDY STEELE $2.60
08 PEACE RULER $ 3.70
07 CANNYOPRA $5.20
04 MR. MAGOO $21.70
03 LORD OF THE PINES $26.00

Race 7
09 PARTY PIE $2.60
03 EVASION $5.30
04 YOU LITTLE BEAUT $6.00
02 CAPADAN $6.90
08 NO HIGH NO SONG $13.20

Here's mine. I think if Hardy Steele is short, take it on. Drawing wide at Caulfield is the WORST place to draw wide, and if it is like it was this meeting every other year (ie leaders advantage) then the horse has none.

Of course, I could be wrong. Often am. Here's two races in which I'll probably be wrong.

Again my prices are to 80% because we're still not using prices for the calculations, is that right?

Duritz.

race 6 3.50
seln mgn price name
7 0.0 $3.1 CANNYOPRA
8 2.0 $12.3 PEACE RULER
1 2.0 $12.5 HARDY STEELE
6 2.1 $14.0 LIMITED IMPULSE
4 2.3 $16.3 MR MAGOO

race 8 5.10
seln mgn price name
3 0.0 $3.4 EVASION
4 1.5 $8.1 YOU LITTLE BEAUT
2 1.5 $8.3 CAPADAN
8 1.7 $9.5 NO HIGH NO SONG
9 1.7 $9.6 PARTY PIE

Yeah, that's right.

I'm a bit worried. I've only got Mr Magoo 4th pick and it seems to be the hot tip today. Don't think Hardy Steele will be short for that very reason.

r6
4- mr.magoo $2.00
1- hardy steele $3.00
11-Jar Jar binks $16.00
6- Limited Impulse $40.00
7- Cannyopra $60.00

Top 2 came up very short here, meaning the bottom two selections have come up with very unrealistic prices...


r8
1- Bondy $3.50
2- Capadan $4.50
3- Evasion $4.50
4- You little Beaut $5.50
6- many are called.. $25.00

cheers

It's a weird race. Mr Magoo is a chance at his best, but was in market last start and was disappointing. I have always been of the opinion that he is best at Flemington where he can wind up. I think Jar Jar Binks is no good and doesn't go the Melbourne way, I have Cannyopera very short and it will be my biggest go of the day. I am very keen on it. I don't think it's definitely going to win, but I am very keen on the value it will be. I think my price is right, I think if this race were run 100 times today it would win 35 or so, and so the odds it will be will be great overs. Hardy Steele is strong but I think it has a tough ask today from the gate with the possibilty of a leaders track or a front runners track with the rail true.

Duritz.

MR6

1. Hardy Steele $4.00
4. Mr. Magoo $4.60
7. Cannyopra $7.00
11. Jar Jar Binks $13.00
8. Peace Ruler $16.00

MR8

9. Party Pie $3.00
2. Capadan $3.50
5. Liquid Lunch $10.00
6. Many Are Called $11.00
4. You Little Beaut $17.00

Beats the hell out of working...

I think if this race were run 100 times today, the horses would all be just a tad tired. :D

CAUFIELD RACE 6

1 HARDY STEELE 3.9
4 MR MAGOO 4.4
11JAR JAR BINKS 9.4
3 LORD OF THE PINES 11.9
8 PEACE RULER 13.0

CAUFIELD RACE 8

9 PARTY PIE 2.6
3 EVASION 5.2
1 BONDY 8.9
2 CAPADAN 9.9
6 MANY ARE CALLED 12.9

Yeah well, I thought I must have done something wrong only having Mr Magoo 4th pick. It was such a big tip today.

Okay, as this was a last minute sort of thing and to be fair to a few people who missed out, I reckon we should do what Filante suggested and count today's races as supplementary races, and we can simply count our two best scores out of the three so far.

Here's today's results:
Sportz (55 + 92.5) 147.5 pts
Filante (67.5 + 62.5) 130 pts
Jimmy (65 + 50) 115 pts
Duritz (47.5 + 65) 112.5 pts
Heavyweight (62.5 + 47.5) 110 pts
Shaun (45 + 47.5) 92.5 pts
Maverick1993 (27.5 + 60) 87.5 pts
ubetido (35 + 47.5) 82.5 pts
QuickFunBet (32.5 + 47.5) 80 pts
Top Rank 42.5 + 37.5) 80 pts
La Mer (40 + 37.5) 77.5 pts
The Mug (47.5 + 17.5) 65 pts
xpt driver (17.5 + 40) 57.5 pts
Chrome Prince (25 + 10) 35 pts

After tallying up our two best scores, here's the leaderboard:
Sportz 270 pts
Filante 260 pts
La Mer 252.5 pts
Jimmy 240 pts
zorro 230 pts
Top Rank 215 pts
Shaun 202.5 pts
Chrome Prince 187.5 pts
The heavyweight 182.5 pts
xpt driver 180 pts
Duritz 177.5 pts
ubetido 170 pts
The mug 167.5 pts
Dr Ron 165 pts
QuickFunBet 150 pts
system 137.5 pts
Rabbit 97.5 pts
Maverick1993 87.5 pts

I feel a bit guilty being up on top, but never mind. I'm sure I won't stay there for long.

don't feel guilty - just announce that you forgot to mention there's a $100 entry fee, winner take all!

Sportz should take 10% just for running this - it's a massive amount of work. Thanks Sportz.

Yeah agreed.

Had an idea by the way, if anyone feels like taking it up - when all the selections are in, how about coming up with a consensus figure from all of our efforts, say 5 points for top pick, 4 for second etc, to get a paper poll of sorts. It'd sort of show us how we'd go if we were the Borg...

If someone has a pricing model they could apply to this kind of thing that could be interesting too.

Duritz.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking of too. I think we'd go pretty close.

Here you go Duritz.

To get a price, all I did was simply divide their scores into the total number of points. There's probably a better way of pricing them. It was just easier that way.

Race 6:
63 Hardy Steele $3.30
43 Mr Magoo $4.90
29 Peace Ruler $7.25
23 Cannyopra $9.15
19 Jar Jar Binks $11.05
14 Limited Impulse $15.00
8 Show 'Em Power $26.25
7 Lord Of The Pines $30.00
3 Firetaine $70.00
1 Flying Ed $210.00

Race 8:
53 Evasion $3.90
44 Party Pie $4.70
40 Capadan $5.20
25 Bondy $8.30
19 You Little Beaut $10.95
14 Many are Called $14.85
7 Liquid Lunch $29.70
6 No High No Song $34.65

We got the winner in the top two picks in each race. I'm surprised at the high ranking of Bondy in R8. My ratings didn't really give it a hope.

Geez, Sydney racing is disappointing at the moment. Once again, I wanted to pick out a Sydney race to rate this Saturday, but there isn't really a race which is all that suitable for what we're doing here, so Melbourne it is once again. The good thing is we should be starting to get really familiar with some of these horses. :)

A few first-uppers in the Chester Manifold. Should make it interesting.

FLEMINGTON R6 - CHESTER MANIFOLD STAKES 1410 M ($151000) (LISTED).
1 HUGS DANCER (FR) Tony McEvoy D Oliver 10 60
2 PENTASTIC Colin Alderson S W Arnold 7 60
3 LAD OF THE MANOR (NZ) Roger Hoysted B E Johns 5 58
4 NATURAL BLITZ Doug Harrison Steven King 9 58
5 ROMAN ARCH Robbie Laing V Duric 13 58
6 COUNT RICARDO Stephen Theodore Matthew Allen 6 57.5
7 LORD VOLKSRAAD (NZ) Brian Mayfield-Smith N Ryan (a) 8 56
8 YOUTH John Hawkes D Gauci 1 55
9 PRETORIUS (NZ) Brian Mayfield-Smith S Baster 4 53.5
10 GRUNDY'S CROSSING Barbara Marshman B Shinn (a) 12 52.5
11 LOTS OF SWING Bruce Elkington N Wilson 11 52.5
12 REQUISITE (NZ) Michael Moroney G Childs 2 52.5
13 NOBLE RED Lee Freedman L Nolen 3 52

FLEMINGTON R7 - TAUTO WELTER 1720 M ($60000)
1 COOL TRENT Robert Smerdon R Maloney (a3) 10 59
2 UNDER THE BRIDGE Tony Vasil D Moor (a3) 1 59
3 MR. LOFTY (NZ) Peter G Moody V Hall 6 58.5
4 FONOME Sue Naylor N Ryan (a0) 3 57
5 O'CANARVASS Nigel Blackiston D Moor (a3) 8 56.5
6 CHARNWOOD GREEN Chris Wood B Shinn (a0) 5 55.5
7 MODERN ERA Brian Mayfield-Smith S W Arnold 11 55.5
8 TUAREG John Hawkes D Gauci 4 55.5
9 RULING EYES Greg Eurell Steven King 2 55
10 ARCHFORCE Clive Balfour D Oliver 9 54
11 IT'S PICNIC Stephen Theodore D Nikolic 7 54

Good Luck! :)

Actually if someone has time they could appy it to yesterday's two races we all did, I get the feeling it will come out pretty well.

Duritz

LOL just realised it has been done already.....

Oh good I see my black booker Mr. Lofty is in at the track I said suited him, Flemington!!!!

What about your red booker Cool Trent? Any hope in this?

FLEMINGTON R6 - CHESTER MANIFOLD STAKES 1410 M ($151000) (LISTED).

3 Lad of the Manor (NZ) (5) $5.75
2 Pentastic (7) $7.75
6 Count Ricardo (6) $7.79
10 Grundy's Crossing (12) $8.95
8 Youth (1) $10.63

FLEMINGTON R7 - TAUTO WELTER 1720 M ($60000)

3 Mr. Lofty (NZ) (6) $5.32
8 Tuareg (4) $5.69
1 Cool Trent (10) $6.07
2 Under the Bridge (1) $7.32
7 Modern Era (11) $8.42



i am not really sure how i will go with these as you can see they are priced close together with no really defining fav....interesting races

Well without knowing the results I suggest you were!

Maybe a bit less beverages whilst doing the ratings could be rewarding!

And I thought I was the cheeky one.

And without knowing the result of the Australia day races,the prices from this forum suggested this.(My interpretation).

Hardy Steele $4.00
Mr. Magoo $4.40

Evasion $4.00
Party Pie $4.60

Any of these prices available?.Did any of these horses win?