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kiwi 31st March 2018 04:07 PM

r.6 AUVRAY, AMBITIOUS Dam, that would have worked.:(

UselessBettor 31st March 2018 05:10 PM

Sportz,

If I happen to make a top 4 position can you exclude me from the finals. I will be unavailable and will not be able to put selections in for the final week.

Thanks for running the comp again.

Percentum 31st March 2018 09:10 PM

Not sure if I made up enough ground to finish near the placings but it was nice to win for a change. This has been my only winning week.

Sportz 31st March 2018 10:21 PM

Just about to work out scores now. We'll see. Good to see you have a good win.

Sportz 31st March 2018 10:52 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by UselessBettor
Sportz,

If I happen to make a top 4 position can you exclude me from the finals. I will be unavailable and will not be able to put selections in for the final week.

Thanks for running the comp again.


Okay, then. Better you tell me now than we have that problem on the day.

You finished 4th, so I guess I'll have to include the 5th person on the ladder.

Sportz 31st March 2018 10:55 PM

With UselessBettor pulling out of the comp, that means kellmark gets a spot in the finals.

Leaderboard
42.7 . Dillwar ( Out: $565 / In: $806.00 )
17.4 . walkermac ( Out: $770 / In: $904.00 )
8.3 . william ( Out: $1,830 / In: $1,982.70 )
-18.2 . kellmark ( Out: $1,280 / In: $1,046.50 )
-----
6.9 . UselessBettor ( Out: $480 / In: $513.20 )
-19.5 . kiwi ( Out: $1,195 / In: $962.50 )
-21.0 . Sportz ( Out: $1,020 / In: $805.75 )
-22.5 . Percentum ( Out: $2,070 / In: $1,604.00 )
-42.9 . Lord Greystoke ( Out: $1,025 / In: $585.00 )

kiwi 1st April 2018 08:01 AM

Congratulations to those who made the semis.
Thanks for another great comp Sportz.:)

Percentum 1st April 2018 10:32 AM

Thanks for another great comp, Sportz. Have to wait to Spring now.

Lord Greystoke 1st April 2018 12:33 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sportz
He LG, for future reference, you're supposed to post all your tips at once. Only exception is if you have a scratching or there is more than 1 day's racing.


Sorry chief, I was in remote mode (away from my computer) with a dodgy internet connection via mobile phone. Thanks for the heads up for next time and congrats on another slickly run comp.

All the very best in the finals gentlemen!

Cheers LG

Puntz 1st April 2018 05:38 PM

Thanks sportz, all the best.

Another suggestion, to consider !
A 2 class competition, those who pick for the Win and those who pick for the Place...
Why get front row on Place bets taking advantage of your the percent calcs,
The advantage is 3 chances to score.

Where with Win bet, you only have one chance to score

Cheers

UselessBettor 1st April 2018 06:09 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Puntz
Thanks sportz, all the best.

Another suggestion, to consider !
A 2 class competition, those who pick for the Win and those who pick for the Place...
Why get front row on Place bets taking advantage of your the percent calcs,
The advantage is 3 chances to score.

Where with Win bet, you only have one chance to score

Cheers


Yep, Puntz I think you are right and was why I was betting the place. I was playing the percentages. The chance of a big percentage win is small, but the chance of a loss is also small meaning you never vary far from the breakeven and breakeven can get you into the finals.

Puntz 1st April 2018 06:12 PM

Yep UB, is what we do, exploit things, lol

Good stuff though, always learning,
cheers

Lord Greystoke 1st April 2018 07:55 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by UselessBettor
The chance of a big percentage win is small, but the chance of a loss is also small meaning you never vary far from the breakeven and breakeven can get you into the finals.


.. or profit when it comes to live betting."

Multiple validation point selection method with criteria less obvious and in some cases completely invisible to the naked eye of the everyday punter. Who needs one juicy win when you can settle for 3 small bites out of a very ripe cherry.

Hat's off to you UB.

Cheers LG

Sportz 2nd April 2018 12:50 AM

I used to not allow any place only betting at all. But when you think about it, what we're trying to do is just make a profit or as close to it as possible. If someone is able to do that just by place betting, should you stop them? We'll see for next time. I may revert to a minimum of at least $5win on every single selection.

Puntz 2nd April 2018 02:59 AM

Quote:
If someone is able to do that just by place betting, should you stop them?

No, not at all.
The Place only bettor has 1st, 2nd or 3rd Result advantage, the Win bettor has 1st only and yet both may select the same runner.
It does not mean one is better than the other from a strategic angle to snag a profit, but who is taking the more risk ?
The Win only bettor .

Sportz 4th April 2018 01:51 AM

Here is the draw for the first day of the finals which is this Saturday.

Major semi
(winner progresses to grand final on Apr 21, loser gets a second chance next Saturday)
Dillwar v walkermac

Minor semi
(winners progresses to next Saturday, loser is eliminated)
william v kellmark

Just a minor change to the betting rules used during the preliminary rounds. You can now post anywhere between 5 and 10 tips instead of 3-15 tips. The bet sizes remain the same as we've been using all the way through.

The person listed first in each matchup finished higher on the ladder, so they are given the "home ground advantage" of having 25% more to spend. The person listed first is allowed to bet between $125 and $250 while the person listed second gets to bet between $100 and $200. In each case, betting the maximum amount won't actually give you a better chance. Because I will simply be converting your total winnings back to a score out of 125 or 100 as the case may be.

The tipster in each matchup who posts second is only allowed to include one of the horses tipped by the person who posted first. Just to clarify this... The person who's listed 2nd doesn't have to wait around and post their tips 2nd. They can get in and post their tips first if they want to. But whoever it is that ends up posting 2nd in each matchup, they can only tip one of the horses that the 1st tipster has picked.

In the unlikely event of a tie, the match will be awarded to the tipster listed 2nd.

Dillwar 4th April 2018 06:32 PM

Toowoomba
R1 #5 Cuddle Me Tight $20 win

Randwick
R5 #8 Alward $5 e/w
R6 #19 Oohood $10 e/w
R7 #8 Furore $10 e/w
R8 #1 Redzel $30 win
R9 #9 Kementari $30 win

Thanks Sportz
Good luck walkermac

william 6th April 2018 10:41 AM

Saturday 7th April
 
Randwick (NSW)

R1-8 ENBIHAAR 20W-10P
R2-5 MURAAQEB 20W-10P

Morphettville (SA)

R6-9 MOGHUL EMPIRE 30W

Bendigo (VIC)

R4-7 PROPERTY 20W-10P

Kembla Grange (NSW)

R4-9 TOUCH OF MINK 30W

Ascot (WA)

R4-1 DAINTY TESS 30W

Toowoomba (QLD)

R6-1 ZOFONIC DANCER 30W

Thanks
William

kellmark 7th April 2018 11:16 AM

Morphetville

Race 8 5 Pandemonium $10 EW
Race 9 3 Kazoom $10 EW

Toowoomba

Race 2 5 Quiero $10 EW
Race 5 13 Criquette $10 EW
Race 7 2 Morendi $10EW
Race 8 4 Raido $10 EW

Randwick

Race 7 2 Vin De Dance $10 EW


Bendigo

Race 1 4 Multitude $10 EW
Race 5 12 Haski $10 EW
Race 7 6 Kiwia $10 EW

walkermac 7th April 2018 12:48 PM

Not feeling confident at all. ....so things will probably go well!

Good luck Dillwar. We're head-to-head in Randwick R7 - could be a decider.


WIN $20
Kembla Grange R8 H1 Temprado
Randwick R8 H1 Redzel
Randwick R10 H1 Luvaluva

WIN $5/PLACE $15
Rockhampton R1 H2 Helluva Hoffa
Randwick R7 H1 Ace High
Kembla Grange R2 H3 Addicted

Sportz 7th April 2018 02:59 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by william
R2-5 MURAAQEB 20W-10P


Incredible start from William. That's going to be awfully hard to toss. Dare I say impossible?

walkermac 7th April 2018 04:51 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by walkermac
Kembla Grange R8 H1 Temprado
Just noticed I put the wrong number down for this horse. It is Temprado that I want (I think the rules are that it defers to the name specified when there's a conflict between name and number anyway, but thought I'd clear up any questionmarks ahead of the race)

Sportz 7th April 2018 05:28 PM

That's why it's always best to put the name of the horse instead of just the number.

Sportz 7th April 2018 05:38 PM

Will work out the scores soon. On just a quick look, it appears like wins to william and walkermac, but I'll work it out soon to make sure.

Sportz 7th April 2018 07:22 PM

Today's results....



Major semi
Dillwar 0 v walkermac 172

(walkermac progresses to grand final on Apr 21, Dillwar gets a second chance next Saturday)



Minor semi
william 503 v kellmark 109

(william progresses to next Saturday, kellmark is unfortunately eliminated)

Sportz 7th April 2018 07:23 PM

william killed it today. What a score. Bad luck to Dillwar, your first bad week, but you have another shot next week.

Dillwar 8th April 2018 11:35 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sportz
william killed it today. What a score. Bad luck to Dillwar, your first bad week, but you have another shot next week.


Thanks Sportz. Well done walkermac, sorry I didn't put up any sort of fight at all.

Great score william. I'll need to bounce back quickly to have any chance this week.

Sportz 13th April 2018 07:15 AM

This Saturday...

Prelim final
(winner progresses to grand final on Apr 21, loser is eliminated)
Dillwar v william

As with last week, 5-10 tips and Dillwar can bet between $125 and $250 while william gets to bet between $100 and $200.

The tipster in each matchup who posts second is only allowed to include one of the horses tipped by the person who posted first.

In the unlikely event of a tie, the match will be awarded to william.

Dillwar 13th April 2018 03:36 PM

Randwick
R2 #2 Isaurian
R3 #6 Pure Elation
R5 #1 Viridine
R6 #3 Unforgotten
R8 #1 Almandin

All $10 win $15 place

Thanks Sportz

Good luck william

william 13th April 2018 04:42 PM

Saturday 14th April
 
Ascot (WA)

R1-8 TIPS AND SCANDALS 20W 10P
R5-7 MISSILE LAUNCH 20W 10P
R6-2 FRIAR FOX 30W

Sunshine Coast (QLD)

R9-4 GUARD OF HONOUR 20W 10P

Caulfield (VIC)

R5-2 HAN XIN 20W 10P

Morphettville (SA)

R4-3 HANDSOME THIEF 20W 10P

Randwick (NSW)

R3-3 KHULAASA 10 EW

All the best Dillwar.

kellmark thanks for the contest last week.

William

walkermac 14th April 2018 12:40 PM

Good luck guys. I'll be waiting for the winner in the grand final next week.... *maniacal laughter* ;)

Sportz 14th April 2018 06:38 PM

Just glancing at the tips, I think dillwar has got there. But I'll work out the scores shortly.

Sportz 14th April 2018 07:28 PM

Result....

dillwar 136 def william 52

So dillwar makes it through to the grand final next week...



GRAND FINAL - SATURDAY APR 21

DILLWAR v WALKERMAC

Dillwar 14th April 2018 07:44 PM

Bad luck william, congrats for getting so close to the end.

Looking forward to the rematch walkermac, hope to at least score something next week!!

And remember, he who laughs maniacally last, laughs maniacally best!!! 😂

william 14th April 2018 07:45 PM

dillwar
 
Congratulations dillwar on your win today.

All the best to you and walkermac in the Grand Final.

Sportz.Thanks for the proficient way you manage the competition.

Regards
William

Sportz 14th April 2018 10:24 PM

Bad luck, william. well done throughout the comp.

Sportz 19th April 2018 09:18 PM

GRAND FINAL - DILLWAR v WALKERMAC

Rules for the grand final...

1) 5-10 tips each

2) $100-$200 each (will be converted to a score out of 100 for both tipsters)

3) Person tipping 2nd can't include any more than 1 of 1st tipster's picks.

4) In the unlikely event of it ending in a tie, winner will be Dillwar (higher position on the ladder)

Dillwar 19th April 2018 09:42 PM

Morphettville
R4 #8 Moghul Empire $20 win

Caulfield
R5 #1 Nature Strip $25 win
R6 #1 Cliffs Edge $30 win

Randwick
R4 #3 Holy Snow $10 win
R7 #10 Trapeze Artist $15 win

Doomben
R6 #2 Whypeeo $20 win
R9 #2 Mr Marbellouz $25 win

Thanks Sportz
Good luck walkermac

Sportz 21st April 2018 12:28 PM

Are you there, walkermac???

walkermac 21st April 2018 12:39 PM

Yep, here I am. Good luck Dillwar.


WIN $5/PLACE $15
Morphettville R6 H8 Snitty Kitty
Doomben R4 H7 Sharpamal

WIN $20
Ascot R5 H3 Jingtang
Caulfield R2 H3 Widgee Turf

WIN $40
Doomben R9 H2 Mr Marbellouz


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