Rudolph, all you need do is read the rules in my post on the previous page and you'll be right. We're changing the comp from Saturday metro only to any TAB meeting, so therefore people have the opportunity to pick a whole new stable if they wish after tomorrow's races. You may not want to make any changes at all. It's up to you.

only horse I have running tomorrow is

SR 1 #1 Kincharm $10 win

same here - 10win Sassbee

Sydney race 1 Astrodame

Well, a pretty disappointing day all round for our stable runners. Still a few races left in Perth but here's how we've gone:

Tipster (Week) Overall

Mr Ed ($42.00) $344.00
Chuck ($0.00) $226.00
Raw Instinct ($0.00) $151.00
Sportz ($78.00) $126.00
Starcraft ($0.00) $121.00
Paddy ($0.00) $120.00
Sandgroper ($0.00) $86.00
Mecurial ($0.00) $57.00
Kiwi ($0.00) $54.00
RomanKoz ($0.00) $39.00
Rudolph ($0.00) $26.00


Don't forget, to coincide with a change in the comp rules from Saturday metro only to any TAB meeting, you're all now entitled to choose an entirely different stable if you wish to do so. Again 6 Group A horses and 6 Group B horses and this stable must be posted by midnight Friday Apr 22 OR midnight on the day prior to your next horse running. For example, if you want to pick a horse that's going around tomorrow, you must post your new stable by midnight tonight. If you haven't posted a new stable by next Friday, then you'll just use the one you already have.

Whats the point of letting people choose an entirely new stable??? i can see absolutely no reasoning behind that at all. I mean, we picked a stable and now we should live with it. 2 changes a week is definitely enough as it is. If our horses have spelled or broken down (which one of mine has) then thats all part of the game isn't it??? I just don't think that a whole new stable is a good idea...maybe 2 changes max...its just not logical

Chuck,

The stable that we started off with was ONLY for Saturday metropolitan races. Seeing as we've changed that rule to betting on any Tab meeting at all, I think it's only fair to allow people to select a new group of horses, so that they can pick some horses for country and midweek meetings if they wish. Some people may be totally happy with the 12 horses they have, and they don't have to change them.

Why then are we doing midweek races at all? Most don't have much of an idea at all about those races, and won't even be around to put the tips/bets in.

NOT HAPPY JAN!!! It just seems that all those who won't be putting in bets for midweek are going to suffer in the end, but definitely are going to be at a disadvantage. How are we supposed to blackbook runners that we don't watch race?

I'm sorry Chuck, but this came up when we had a few horses that people had picked out for Saturdays turning up during the week.

I know that I originally set this up for Saturdays only, but really, if you pick a horse to follow, why should it matter where and when it runs next. A win's a win. Why should you be penalised because the trainer decides to run your horse in a midweek race instead of a Saturday. And you do get some pretty good horses running on Sundays and Wednesdays especially.

As for people being advantaged, you still have to find the winners. Just because people will be able to bet any day of the week, it doesn't necessarily mean they'll get any more winners. And chances are, the prices will probably be shorter away from the Saturday metro meetings. If you only want to pick horses for Saturday meetings, that's perfectly okay, but at least now you won't be penalised if they then turn up at a midweek meeting instead. And while it would be good if people notify us whenever their horses are running, I will still check all the fields each day just to make sure that we don't miss any.

If we were doing it on profit then it wouldn't be a disadvantage, but we are doing it on winnings so it is an advantage if you bet more.

But people will still only be able to have 12 horses Chuck. If you pick 12 Saturday metro horses, you should really get the same number of runs out them as if you pick 12 Country midweek horses. The only advantage would be if you pick horses that tend to run every single week therefore giving you more chance to win. But basically, you simply pick 12 horses that you think can win races in the near future, and now you won't miss out no matter where the trainer decides to run them.

When you fellas sort it all out, don't forget to let the rest of us know what is going on with this on again, off again, re-shaped, re-worked etc comp :)

Paddy, check out Post number 153 on page 16.

Ok lets get this straight for myself and everyone else I guess.


Sportz anyone who is currently in the comp can basically dump all of the horses out of the stable which they have now and start all over if they wish to. also from now on we can bet any day of the week and have the ability to make 2 changes per week aswell. and this is all effective as of today the only other thing I want to clarify when does the week begin and end and what time do changes have to be made by if there is a deadline.

Sportz I amnot having a go at you or anything just want to make sure I have it right and it might clarify it for a few more people.

As I said to Paddy, have a look at Post 153 on Page 16 of this thread. Then hopefully you should be right

Yes, anybody that's in the comp can pick an entirely new stable if they wish. This stable must be posted on here by Midnight Friday Apr 22 OR by Midnight the day before your next horse runs. For example, if you want to include a horse in your stable that's running tomorrow, then you have to post your stable by Midnight tonight.

You don't have to change your stable if you don't want to. You can leave it exactly how it is if you like. Just tell me you're keeping it the same and you can start using it the following day. Anybody that hasn't posted a new stable by Midnight Friday Apr 22, will simply continue using their original one from Saturday Apr 23.

Our betting weeks go from Saturday to Friday. Starting from Apr 29, you can change your stable every Friday. If you have a stable runner on Friday, you have to wait until after it's run to change your stable. Otherwise any time on Friday up till the cutoff time of Midnight.

Thanks Sportz sorry for being a pain in the ass

Don't worry. It's really my own fault for not getting it right in the first place. :o

Oh no. Sorry Paddy. Please don't look at the result of Kalgoorlie R6. :(

What the?
 

Hey I just noticed the rules have changed. I pay little attention as it is, please don't make this difficult. If you want to do midweek racing, could you please put each way bets on my horses as I'll have ****** who's racing midweek. And did everyone have a terrible weekend of betting?

Starcraft,

You don't HAVE to look for midweek horses. You can just stick to picking Saturday horses if you wish. All you have to do is pick 12 horses that you think can win races in the near future, but now you won't be penalised if the trainer decides to run them midweek instead of Saturday. That's all.

And as we're trying to pick future winners, I think we should stick to win betting only. By the way, Win betting improved your position dramatically in week one compared to each way betting.

Sportz. Just providing notification that I’m not continuing on in this comp. Major attraction to me in the first instance was the EW option as included in the original rules. Now no longer an option, the ‘new’ comp is no longer of interest to me.

Sandgroper,

I'm very sorry to hear that. Are you sure you won't reconsider? :o

This is turning into a mess. I'm beginning to wish I'd never started this comp and I'm certainly wishing that I hadn't changed anything. It's so damn hard running a comp like this. You try to please everybody and end up pleasing nobody. :(

Okay, well it's obvious that the rule changes I introduced haven't gone over well at all. That's an understatement! I thought I was doing the right thing, but obviously not. I should have just kept the rules as they were in my original post.

So, could I please get everyone's opinion on something before I go COMPLETELY INSANE over this comp. :(

How many people would like to simply revert back to all of the original rules of this comp?
Saturday and Public Holiday metro meetings only.
Each way betting allowed.
Only two trading periods where you can change your horses.

I apologise for all this stuffing around. As I said, I really thought I was doing the right thing, but all I've done is confuse and upset people and send myself round the bend, so I think the best thing to do is simply go back to all of the original rules that were in place when we chose our stables in the first place. :o

I don't care either way I just enjoy doing the comps but if I had to choose I would say leave it as it was

How many people would like to simply revert back to all of the original rules of this comp?
Saturday and Public Holiday metro meetings only.
Each way betting allowed.
Only two trading periods where you can change your horses.

beautiful!!!

Can we still reselect the stables.I have produced a new selection based on the new or is it old rules and was ready to go mid-week with a different group of animals.My old groups wern't running often enough and i thought Sportz' anytime, anywhere rule a good one.:)

I think I'm going to go crazy. Everybody wants something different. :o

You know what. I can see that I'm going to have to start up a totally new comp for betting on all meetings while at the same time keeping this one going with the original rules for Saturdays only.

im easily pleased sports, i just think that the EW option is good, for horses that may be first up or need more ground and the place looks best for them.
i think it's fine to do just metro meetings, mostly Wed and Sat, and if thats the case then some updates to the stable are in order!

Keep on punting and finding winners!

...i still say same rules...pretend nothing ever happened!!!

Almost subscribed to this thread when it started. Glad I didn’t.

In my book a ‘stable’ competition should be judged on the prize money a stable accrues over a specified period. After all in the real world, that’s the bottom line.

Yeah, I thought about doing it that way, but we are after all, basically a forum full of punters, so I went with the betting part of it.

Definitely something I will think about for the Spring though.

I like that. I'd really like to pretend nothing ever happened!!! :o

Go to the first post of this thread!

if we just go from the same rules as if nothing ever happened then no one can complain

Okay, well like it or not, here's what I've decided to do.

We won't make any changes to this competition at all. We'll stick to the original rules.

RULES

12 horses in your stable, 6 'Group A' horses and 6 'Group B' horses.

Hypothetical bets on all of your stable horses whenever they start at one of our nominated meetings. You'll bet either $20 Win or $10 EW on all Group A horses and you'll have either $10 Win or $5 EW on all Group B horses.

Two trading periods available where you can replace up to 3 of your stable horses with new selections for the rest of the comp. During these trading periods, you are also allowed to swap your A & B horses around if you wish, as long as you continue to have 6 of each.

Here are the meetings left to bet on:

Sat Apr 23 (Doom, Rand, Caul, Chel, Belm)
Mon Apr 25 (E.Frm, Rand, Flem, V.Pk, Belm)

First trading period
Tuesday Apr 26 to Midnight Friday Apr 29

Sat Apr 30 (Doom, Rose, Sand, Morp, Belm)
Mon May 2 (Doom)
Sat May 7 (E.Frm, Rose, Flem, Morp, Belm)
Sat May 14 (G.Cst, Rand, Sand, Morp, Belm)
Mon May 16 (Ipsw, Cant, Flem, Morp, Belm)

Second trading period
Tuesday May 17 to Midnight Friday May 20

Sat May 21 (Doom, Rose, M.Val, Chel, Belm)
Sat May 28 (Doom, Rose, Flem, Chel, Belm)
Sat June 4 (E.Frm, Rose, Sand, Chel, Belm)
Sat June 11 (E.Frm, Rand, Flem, Morp, Belm)
Mon June 13 (E.Frm, W.Frm, M.Val, Morp, Belm)

That's it. The rules exactly as we started the comp.

However, I've decided that I WILL start up another thread with a different version of this comp, just for people like kiwi, myself and any others who are interested in picking out horses to follow for any meetings on any day of the week and being able to change them more regularly.

Leaderboard

$344.00 Mr Ed
$226.00 Chuck
$151.00 Raw Instinct
$126.00 Sportz
$121.00 Starcraft
$120.00 Paddy
$104.00 Sandgroper
$57.00 Mecurial
$54.00 Kiwi
$39.00 RomanKoz
$26.00 Rudolph

Sandgroper, you'll be pleased to note that I've re-calculated your total on an each-way basis and it's improved your position. Please continue in the comp.

Saturday April 23

Moet Magic $10 Each Way

Saturday:

$20 Win Happier


Monday (May be more)

$10 E/W Roman Arch

Chuck,

Remember we did agree to keep it to metropolitan meetings only and I can only find Happier down for Newcastle tomorrow. Don't know what on earth it's doing there. It's in my stable too. :o