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Shaun 21st July 2010 06:25 PM

My prices are imported 30 seconds untill the off then updated at 20 seconds, first bet is placed 15 seconds untill off then odds rechecked to see if any new selections at 5 seconds untill off, once the advertised start time is reached no more bets are placed so if the race is delayed and prices change i have no control but am happy with this setup.

The thing i will be looking at is how many runners i have selected at different odds ranges.

place2win 22nd July 2010 12:42 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by wesmip1
I didn't lay the winner in Belmont R7. I had the low odds record at $39 which meant it could be up to $46.80 . The recorded betfair odds I had at the time my program checked was $50.

Maybe its due to the odds being used. I use the pink side of betfair (those wanting to take the bet) and not the other side (current lay odds). If the odds are not under lowest tote*1.20 then I don't place a lay.
Wesmip1
Just to clarify
Prices in BLUE columns are Backers Prices (BF-WAP, BF, BF-SP)
Price in Pink column is Layers Price
We * the lowest TAB price by 1.2 (20%)and add to TAB price, if the resulting
figure is greater than the available price (Betfair PINK) it becomes a lay bet.
(TAB $39.00*1.2 = $46.80) (BF PINK Price = $42.00)
Is this correct?

Shaun 22nd July 2010 05:22 PM

Not much action for me today even though i was working on 5 meetings plus betfair ******** itself and i missed a couple races..

Selections 36
Wins 33
Accidents 3
Profit -$30

Thats the problem with high priced selections just a few winners can upset things, still going well.

wesmip1 22nd July 2010 05:45 PM

Quote:


Just to clarify
Prices in BLUE columns are Backers Prices (BF-WAP, BF, BF-SP)
Price in Pink column is Layers Price
We * the lowest TAB price by 1.2 (20%)and add to TAB price, if the resulting
figure is greater than the available price (Betfair PINK) it becomes a lay bet.
(TAB $39.00*1.2 = $46.80) (BF PINK Price = $42.00)
Is this correct?

Yes thats right. I guess a lot of it depends on when you pick up your prices. over time (1000's of bets) it shouldn't matter much though.

thorns 27th July 2010 06:19 PM

For those of you that are writing programs to make this work, how hard is it to learn how to do the programming? Can anyone offer any advice for someone looking to get started in this, any good books to read? Is it something that anyone could teach themself or is it pretty advanced and need more specialist training?

stugots 28th July 2010 02:11 PM

no programming needed thorns, just betting assistant & an intermediate knowledge of excel

Shaun 28th July 2010 03:32 PM

I don't mind helping anyone out with the code for excel and Betting Assistent but i can't supply a sheet as this is not my method so you will need to work for it.

Like any method this one has it's ups and down and no way i could say it is a long term winner. at this time.

wesmip1 28th July 2010 04:50 PM


Quote:
For those of you that are writing programs to make this work, how hard is it to learn how to do the programming? Can anyone offer any advice for someone looking to get started in this, any good books to read? Is it something that anyone could teach themself or is it pretty advanced and need more specialist training?

You will benefit greatly from learning to program in the long run. I suggest dotNet or Java. You can pick up a "teach yourself xxx in 21 days" book from most bookstores or libraries.

TheSchmile 28th July 2010 06:24 PM

Hi gents,

Just throwing a few ideas out there for discussion.

1/ Could you refine wesmip1's lay system to any horse within .10 of the lowest tab div instead of .20? My point being that the Betfair win ledger normally runs at about 103% and the Tab's are at 118%, so:

118-
103-
005 (Betfair commission)

= 110

Just an idea....

2/ Backing method: Have you tried the opposite and only back horses at 20 percent above the highest tab price?



The Schmile

Shaun 28th July 2010 08:10 PM

I am going to try a change to the staking and and lay 1 runner to lose and any other selections to return an even result.


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